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Post by morshu on Jan 21, 2023 22:37:57 GMT
I can't seem to find any reliable information on how much it costs to call these fake scam victims and moneygram phone numbers. I especially want to know how much Geoff spent calling "moneygram" for 6 hours. He is the most confusing man I've heard of, he seems to know exactly what's happening, yet stay on the line and keep calling and calling. I'd be really happy to see it if these bots got an upgrade, especially the moneygram bot; they could use some randomization to make them less obvious, then we could have more customers like Geoff! Repeat customers are the best thing for a business after all. I heard one scammer who knew which number he would be in the queue after calling a few times; the idiot still believed it, but he could have remained oblivious instead of suspicious if the numbers and songs and maybe some of the events were randomized. Franklin the scambaiting phonebot is a great example of some simple randomization to confuse the scammers! youtu.be/whx4vnANXYM
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Post by stellabella on Jan 22, 2023 12:03:17 GMT
I'm obviously not Linoline, all I know is that calling those numbers are expensive, I believe they are "premium numbers".
I especially love reading Geoff's thoughts about how much it's costing him:
The resources are provided to baiters freely and I am so grateful they are. The owner does an amazing job keeping them online for the baiting community to utilise and they add another perspective to a bait.
Yes, I agree, Franklin is wonderful! I was introduced to him not long ago. The owner is very talented and his humour is outstanding but I'll always have a soft spot for Lenny
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Post by Kanade on Jan 22, 2023 13:02:14 GMT
Well to calculate that you have to find their cell operator international call rates. Here for an example are MTN call rates. www.mtn.ng/personal/international-call-rates/ Current rates to USA are 31.2 Naira ($0.07) per min and to UK they are 60-180 Naira ($0.13-$0.40) per min. Voice call to any destination not covered in the Voice Rates table is charged 432 Naira ($0.95) per min. For like an 20min call to Moneygram bot they would spend like 624 Naira ($1.38). The amount spent might seem for someone cheap or almost nothing but we must understand that the reason for that is that the call from Nigeria to US goes trough underwater internet cables. Also these guyman use calling cards with like $5 or $20 values and they call all sorts of people everyday, so when their call cuts because their calling card credit runs out they become very frustrated and mad. The best shot to make these calls to cost more is to get an satellite phone and make them call you on it. To call an satellite phone its like more than $1.30 per min and that depends where you are and on your satellite phone operator.
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Post by morshu on Jan 23, 2023 8:20:26 GMT
^^ so I guess Geoff spent about $25 on calls, for 6 hours. Well, that's not enough. Is there a way to make him spend more next time?
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Post by rob419 on Jan 23, 2023 9:23:04 GMT
I never knew knowing how much international phonecalls cost would be interesting 😂 this brings me great joy to know that scammers are wasting their time & money also I'd like to remind every one that wages of normal jobs in countries of Africa can be like 30 dollars/pounds a mouth so if you think of it like that Geoffrey spent nearly a mouths wages on calls
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