Post by Yastreb on Aug 7, 2020 13:13:23 GMT
One of the most memorable baits of Mr P’s career began in a modest way, with a simple enough scam.
It led to two safaris, epic dollar-chops and some truly epic calls.
Here is the full story of how Lee Sam Kang’s strife began.
The Scammers
Lee Sam Kang, supposedly from Indonesia, and given to impulse buying of gold
Eric Pascal of “MSP - Mirrow Security & Property Gh.Ltd.”
The Baiter
Malcolm Reynolds
The scammers’ emails are date-stamped. My comments are in bold.
3 April 2013
Hello Sir,
Greetings in the name of God.
I need your help
Right now, I have about 7 kg of gold which i would like to ship to your country ,please can you help me sell the gold.
Regards,
Lee
Mr Lee
I suggest you find someone who actually buys gold.
Malcolm Reynolds
4 April 2013
Hello sir,
I thought with your help we could take it to your country and then we sell it out.. africa here they dont buy .. international is selling at good price.
all we do is shipment to your country and international people can value it better..
lee
Mr Lee
Australia is a gold producing nation - there'd be no point trying to sell it here.
Malcolm Reynolds
4 April 2013
Sir,
Greetings I do not know what to do now , cos i have to get the gold out of Ghana and take it to Australia or my home country is Indonesia .. but right now , i don't even have the charges..fees of 2,850 Dollars to pay of this charges and would need your help.
and promise to pay back soonest.
with an amount of gold . I prefer you pay the money directly to the company and instruct them to later open the boxes and take out some gold worth your money and send to you and i will now double the quantity for you. ..to show my appreciation.
Greetings ..
Lee
Mr Lee
I'm not a charitable institution, nor in the habit of sending money on whim. Who is charging and why?
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello Sir,
it is the company that safe keep the items that is asking for the money.
for demurrage / storage of the boxes befor it release it.
I have been to the police head quarter to complain and they asked a police officer to follow me to the company and the confirmation was write but i dont have the money that is by bigest problem. now.
$2,850 .
Lee
Mr Lee
So I gather that you would like me to pay this money?
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello sir,
Please yes ,
You can also tell the company to ship to your direction and country.
Thanks
lee
Mr Lee
Is that a fact? And what happens when the gold arrives here?
Malcolm Reynolds
Sir,
when it gets to your country we sell it off.
and you get your fair share of the gold for your effort x 3 for your money spent.
and I also want to invest in properties in your country with your help.
lee
Mr Lee
I have a name, so please don't call me "sir".
I don't know the rules for trading in specie here or if I can run a business. Hell, I don't know anything about investment. I just teach survival techniques.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes ,i am going to address you by your names.Please thanks.
what is the teaching of survival techniques all about.
Please am sorry i dont understand it.
Lee
Mr Lee
Survival techniques are how to stay alive in the wilderness - finding food and water, avoiding danger and find your way safely.
Don't you get Man Versus Wild in Indonesia?
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
It is clear to me now.
Thanks very much.
Lee
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Please
When would you like to contact the company and make the payment today.
I am going to the company to inform about you as my partner and receiver to the items .
Lee
Mr Lee
I have no idea who to contact, so I couldn't do a gorram thing.
Malcolm Reynolds
5 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
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Here is contact details of the company.
MSP - Mirrow Security & Property Gh.Ltd.
Tel: REDACTED
email: REDACTED
P.O.Box Ct 1123 Accra Ghana.
Contact: Mr.Pascal Eric
------------------------------
Please I have told the company you are to receive the items in your country .
and his expecting you to contact him.
Regards,
Lee
Mr Lee
Just one question - why buy gold from Ghana? Australia is right next door to Indonesia.
Malcolm Reynolds
5 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings,
I was on holiday and met the deal . it was cheap price.
I had to buy it.
Lee
6 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings,
I was on holiday to the African conservation cent re for wild life's - and met the deal . it was cheap price and it is very quality in purity and carats. internationally
I had to buy it and store it for some time.
Lee
Mr Lee
Doesn't sound like you acted wisely, more on impulse. Did you get it tested independently?
Malcolm Reynolds
7 April
Hello Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes the gold was tested by the Geological survey department with the ministry of mines i even contacted the customs approval testing department to have a look at it also before the storage.
To make sure it was Good .. for delivery .internationally.
We are on the safe side.
Lee.
Mr Lee
In that case, please send a copy of the results.
Malcolm Reynolds
And Mal received a copy of the results (which I’ll post separately).
Mr Lee,
If my math is kosher, selling the gold in Australia would net somewhere over $300,000. How much did you pay for it?
Malcolm Reynolds
8 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I paid for each kilo 32,000 Dollars ...X 7 kg.
Its totaling 224,000 Dollars.
Mr.Lawrence
Mr Lee
Take away what you spent and the result is maybe $80,000 to $100,000. Since most of that would be yours, it's not much of a return for me.
Malcolm Reynolds
8 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynold,
ONCE YOU PAY OFF THE STORAGE CHARGES 2,850 DOLLARS. I spend $224,000 .
AND THE GOODS IS SHIPPED TO YOUR COUNTRY. WE ARE CAPABLE OF SELLING and making alot profit.
IN AUSTRALIA DOLLARS WE ARE MAKING A GOOD PROFIT.
per kilog.international market is
AUD $48,632 AND IN USA DOLLARS IT IS $50,616 TODAYS PRICE.
so there is a lot profit.
even if we sell a little lower..
i bot it for 32,000 DOllars in Ghana.
Regards,
Lawrence
Mr Lee
Even at full price the return would be $130,000 over what you paid. If we pro-rate the costs you get 98%, which would give me about $2,600. Even if you give me back the costs threefold, that would give me under $12,000. There's also the need to go through a licensed dealer, which is going to bring down the profit.
Malcolm Reynolds
9 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes you are right.!
the return is good profit. and if a licensed dealer is going to reduce the profit a little, that is no problem.
and for your effort i agree to give you 15 % of the profit.
once we complete the first deal , i can come to africa and purchase more and we continue in the business to benefit both parties.
please give me your full contact details and names so i send to the company , to wait for you to contact them.
.I want us to move the goods this week.
Please contact the safe keeping company today and let proceed.
In his anxiety, LSK gave the company’s details twice.
10 April
HELLO MR.MALCOLM REYNOLDS,
GREETINGS.
I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THE COMPANY AND WAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
YOU CAN CONTACT THE COMPANY DIRECTLY.
THANKS
LEE
Mr Lee,
15% isn't enough, as I don't intend to continue with gold trading. 30% would be my share.
Malcolm Reynolds
11 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds
25%
Lets start with 25%.
we are both benefiting from the deal. gradually we make more profits.
Lee
30% is my only offer. It's your call.
12 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Alright we are in 1 accord .30% is yours.
I have contacted the company to inform them that my partner to receive the items will contact them please contact them too.
The fee is to roundup the transaction is $2,850 USD.
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Here is contact details of the company.
REDACTED
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and his expecting you to contact him.
Regards,
Mr.Lee
But the other scammer contacted Mal first.
13 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
The Mirrow Security company is having boxes of 7kg gold and some few diamonds belonging to Lee Sam Kang family.
Mr.Lee Sam Kang came to our office and instruct us to ship to your location in Australia ,requesting we ship the boxes to your home address and that you are his receiver and Partner in business .
Please we have a company policy and undertaking to items stored here.
We are to be paid storage fees or demur-age charges,which I believe you know this things in any storage house.
Before we ship goods or items and properties belonging to our depositors .
1. the Storage charges must be paid
2. Receiving end have to be in agreement with the depositor/owner if different receiver in good faith .
3. Give us your full address to enable us effect the delivery with our delivery network. under our insurance protection.
Try to understand us .we are doing every best to serve our depositors better .
MAKE PAYMENT VIA MONEY GRAM .
The charges is 2,850 Dollars
Receiver Names: IDRISU YAKUBU
Country: GHANA
City: ACCRA
AMOUNT: $2850 DOLLARS.
SEND THE PAYMENT INFORMATION
try to call + lines are open: REDACTED.
The total amount to roundup the process is 3,200 GBP Pounds .
Yours in service
Mr. Pascal Eric
DIRECTOR
MIRROR SECURITY PROPERTY LTD. GH.
OK, I’ve mostly played nice. That’s going to change.
Mr Eric
Two things should be made clear at this point.
[1] No money will be sent by Moneygram (or any other transfer system). I will only pay fees to a bank account.
[2] No fees will be paid without an invoice.
I trust that you understand me fully.
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Try to contact the company today
So we can move forward.
contact Mr. Pascal Eric.
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee
I contacted Pascal Eric so don't pester me.
Malcolm Reynolds
14 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Here is bank details.
REDACTED
make the payment and send us a payment slip or transfer slip given to you by your bank as proof of payment for our office use.
Best regards,
Mr.Pascal Eric.
15 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings .
Please today is Monday has the company responded to you .
regards,
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
What part of "Don't pester me" don't you get?
Malcolm Reynolds
16 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I sent you this same information on Saturday last week and also with copy of the invoice.
hope you make the payment via this bank details .
Here is bank details.
REDACTED
make the payment and send us a payment slip or transfer slip given to you by your bank as proof of payment for our office use.
Best regards,
Mr.Pascal Eric.
Mr Pascal
The transfer was made at 1430 my time and the transfer slip is already on its way to you.
Malcolm Reynolds
17 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Ok .Scan and send to me the transfer slip.
yours in service
Mr.Pascal Eric
Mr Eric
The transfer slip is in the post. It should be with you by the end of the week or possibly Monday. In any event, we can now move on the next stage.
Malcolm Reynolds
What you do is scan and send a copy that is all for endorsement. very important
17 April 2013
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
My banker said the transfer of funds has not reflected here in Ghana . Sometimes it takes some 3 days due to your Australian system . Please scan the payment slip and send to us via email .
I have to cash the funds before we process the release of the boxes to clear the storage charges and also the shipping fees.
As you can see it is very important the funds reflect here in the Bank Account so I can cash it for the expenses. so a little patience and try to get the payment slip from your bank again and scan.. via email
Please send your full contact details telephone numbers .
Yours in Service,
Mr. Pascal Eric,
By sheer chance, I overheard a remark in my workplace about gold prices falling. What else can I do...?
Mr Pascal
I've stopped the payment in any event, so destroy the slip when you receive it.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee,
The deal is off as the drop in gold prices makes it of no interest to me.
Malcolm Reynolds
17 April 2013
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
My banker said the transfer of funds has not reflected here in Ghana . Sometimes it takes some 3 days due to your Australian system . Please scan the payment slip and send to us via email .
I have to cash the funds before we process the release of the boxes to clear the storage charges and also the shipping fees.
As you can see it is very important the funds reflect here in the Bank Account so I can cash it for the expenses. so a little patience and try to get the payment slip from your bank again and scan.. via email
Please send your full contact details telephone numbers .
Yours in Service,
Mr. Pascal Eric,
Mr Pascal
I am not taking the gold and that's final.
Malcolm Reynolds
Time to reinforce the message with a phone call.
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18 April
Hello Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Gold price Going down is no much problem it does not affect us.
Its a normal thing about gold business and all other market globally.
Even at the price right now,we still have a profit to make.
I bought each kilogram at 32,000 USD in africa and if the price in australia is going for bout 42,000 Dollars per kg . we are still at a point of making profit.
The price is going to go high soon, that is why we have to get the gold down to your country to keep it . or sell at the current price and still make profit.
I want us to use the money as soon as we sell to buy at very cheap price here in african now it is about 25,000 Dollars per kilogram.
so we have to ship the 7 kg and diamonds to your country sell at current price and you take your 30% profit and I get my 70% and then return back money so we continue to buy more gold here in african to Australia and europe... The future of our business relationship is what we have to look at.
Please be rest assured and go to your bank and make the payment into bank account given to you by Security company.
All is well.
regards,
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
I'm not a business man - I'm a retired US Marine. What I know about business could be printed in 48-point type on the palm of my hand. What I do know is math, and that what you paid and the current price, 30% would get me a pittance.
I'm not a gambler by temperament, and you're asking me to gamble against the odds of prices suddenly shooting up. That is simply not acceptable.
Malcolm Reynolds
18 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I read your mail and its clear to me.
we are both working things out and want to make profit . There is no way we can run at a loss in the deal.
With this first deal done, yes we be having profit. once we now invest the main capital to Ghana, at 25,000 Per kg we are going to buy more gold and we make more profit in the next sales together. In every 2 weeks interval..we make shipment.
A fall in price only gives room for people to Buy and store GOld that is the secret , it does not get spoil t , Later world economy in American Europe Australia will move it up again .
(Gold price does not Go below 40,000 international. )
That is why all gold investors and merchants are doing now. Lets take advantage too. we are not loosing any coin.
Lets finish the first deal now. and move to buy the second cheap price at 25,000 that is more profit for us.
Please contact the company and make the payment to enable the first shipment .
Regards
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
I am not a businessman by temperament. Perhaps I can find people who would be interested, because I have no desire to take up gold trading.
Malcolm Reynolds
19 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I really appreciate your effort now, I want us to ship the gold to Australia.
I will be there to take care of the sales together with you so there be no fear of loss since you are not into gold much. in the process you get to understand it.
its better than bring in other people to complicate..
Please try to understand me ok.
That is why i said contact the company and lets move on. the fewer the more the profit us.
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee,
It's better to work with an expert than an uninterested amateur. I'll find people who trade in gold and specie and put them in touch with you.
Malcolm Reynolds
19 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I am a professional and that is why I said we move the gold to Australia Just you and I .
I will travel to meet with you and we sell it together.
We maintain profit margins. this is the best way.
We have to ship first to arrive it there and then We can move to get any professional or we move directly to Jewelry dealers who normally buy gold.
Which we are still making profit.
as it is now we still have about 10,000 profit on each kg.X 7 kg.. that is 70,000 Dollars total.
Profit sharing = 30%;70% =
30,000 for you and 70,000 for me.
we put the main capital into business again. and buy at 25,000 from Ghana now. we will be making more than the first deal ... with more quantity ..
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
You bought the gold on impulse while being a tourist, so you aren't a professional gold trader. I can actually find someone who knows about trading gold - don't just push that option away.
Malcolm Reynolds
20 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings to you and family.
See prices are already going high..
please lets make good use of the chance . to sell this first set of gold and buy more at cheaper rate now..
price is already appreciating its moving up again. contact the company and lets move the goods I am going to join you and we sell the goods to guide the deal to a success.
Please contact the company .
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
Don't write to me - I'll write to you.
Malcolm Reynolds
21 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes , I bought it on tourist trip. that is the opportunity that follows and with my knowledge of gold i grab it. Bringing in a professional is really good. and best when we already landed the gold in your country. So it becomes hot cake and even we can sell at higher price extra for you and me.
That is why i said we ship first. once it is face to face . every jewelry shop owner or gold dealer can pay higher price to receive it and store it for somemore time to increase profit also that
is how gold business is. and as you can see the price is appreciating higher and higher again.
If we move the goods this new week it will be very good.
Hope you enjoyed your weekend.
Mr.Lee
23 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Please have you contacted the company to make the payment.
Please do ok so we can move on .
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
I haven't made any payment because I'm not accepting the gold. I'm looking for a buyer.
Malcolm Reynolds
23 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings.
Good idea to look for buyer.
Try to listen to me ok.
1. We ship the gold to your country.
2. we get a gold jewelry shop to buy it.
that is all.
first , they must see the gold in Australia that is why i want us to ship first.
This is how business is done.
That is why i said contact the company and let proceed with shipment.
if you talk tosomeone for gold , they have to see it first in
australia.
Regards,
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee
There is no "we" as far as I'm concerned. Once I secure a buyer for the gold, I'm out. The shipment will be his concern, not mine.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee
I've cc'd a man from England who's more able to do a deal with you - I met him in Alice Springs in early December. His name is Mr P... and you should get on fine.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee
Don't say I'm not generous - I've copied this one to a lady in Miami who would be more than welcome to hear about getting gold. Silvina Valdez is a fine lady and... well, after I met her, for a fair while all other women were like shadows and ghosts!
Malcolm Reynolds
24 April
Mr. Reynolds, why are you talking this way . We are going to get a buyer , but first the gold has to be shipped to your country.
this way we can maintain our profit formula.
Mr.Lee
Good let her contact me,
Mr Lee
You have her email address - why don't you get the ball rolling? It would look more professional that way.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee
Silvina lives in Miami and Mr Q... comes from England. There's no point shipping gold here if the buyer lives elsewhere, right?
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello Mr. Reynolds , I have sent email to both of them and making reference to your names as my friend and partner.
Hope to receive mail from them.
Mr. Lee
25 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Please could you talk to the both persons , i sent them emails and have not heard from them about the gold.
we need to work with time ..
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee
Try them again. I am not your message service.
Malcolm Reynolds
27 April
Mr.Malcolm,
sir,
i am communicating .
thanks
Mr.Lee
And what happened after that is a tale for others to tell.
It led to two safaris, epic dollar-chops and some truly epic calls.
Here is the full story of how Lee Sam Kang’s strife began.
The Scammers
Lee Sam Kang, supposedly from Indonesia, and given to impulse buying of gold
Eric Pascal of “MSP - Mirrow Security & Property Gh.Ltd.”
The Baiter
Malcolm Reynolds
The scammers’ emails are date-stamped. My comments are in bold.
3 April 2013
Hello Sir,
Greetings in the name of God.
I need your help
Right now, I have about 7 kg of gold which i would like to ship to your country ,please can you help me sell the gold.
Regards,
Lee
Mr Lee
I suggest you find someone who actually buys gold.
Malcolm Reynolds
4 April 2013
Hello sir,
I thought with your help we could take it to your country and then we sell it out.. africa here they dont buy .. international is selling at good price.
all we do is shipment to your country and international people can value it better..
lee
Mr Lee
Australia is a gold producing nation - there'd be no point trying to sell it here.
Malcolm Reynolds
4 April 2013
Sir,
Greetings I do not know what to do now , cos i have to get the gold out of Ghana and take it to Australia or my home country is Indonesia .. but right now , i don't even have the charges..fees of 2,850 Dollars to pay of this charges and would need your help.
and promise to pay back soonest.
with an amount of gold . I prefer you pay the money directly to the company and instruct them to later open the boxes and take out some gold worth your money and send to you and i will now double the quantity for you. ..to show my appreciation.
Greetings ..
Lee
Mr Lee
I'm not a charitable institution, nor in the habit of sending money on whim. Who is charging and why?
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello Sir,
it is the company that safe keep the items that is asking for the money.
for demurrage / storage of the boxes befor it release it.
I have been to the police head quarter to complain and they asked a police officer to follow me to the company and the confirmation was write but i dont have the money that is by bigest problem. now.
$2,850 .
Lee
Mr Lee
So I gather that you would like me to pay this money?
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello sir,
Please yes ,
You can also tell the company to ship to your direction and country.
Thanks
lee
Mr Lee
Is that a fact? And what happens when the gold arrives here?
Malcolm Reynolds
Sir,
when it gets to your country we sell it off.
and you get your fair share of the gold for your effort x 3 for your money spent.
and I also want to invest in properties in your country with your help.
lee
Mr Lee
I have a name, so please don't call me "sir".
I don't know the rules for trading in specie here or if I can run a business. Hell, I don't know anything about investment. I just teach survival techniques.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes ,i am going to address you by your names.Please thanks.
what is the teaching of survival techniques all about.
Please am sorry i dont understand it.
Lee
Mr Lee
Survival techniques are how to stay alive in the wilderness - finding food and water, avoiding danger and find your way safely.
Don't you get Man Versus Wild in Indonesia?
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
It is clear to me now.
Thanks very much.
Lee
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Please
When would you like to contact the company and make the payment today.
I am going to the company to inform about you as my partner and receiver to the items .
Lee
Mr Lee
I have no idea who to contact, so I couldn't do a gorram thing.
Malcolm Reynolds
5 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
--------
Here is contact details of the company.
MSP - Mirrow Security & Property Gh.Ltd.
Tel: REDACTED
email: REDACTED
P.O.Box Ct 1123 Accra Ghana.
Contact: Mr.Pascal Eric
------------------------------
Please I have told the company you are to receive the items in your country .
and his expecting you to contact him.
Regards,
Lee
Mr Lee
Just one question - why buy gold from Ghana? Australia is right next door to Indonesia.
Malcolm Reynolds
5 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings,
I was on holiday and met the deal . it was cheap price.
I had to buy it.
Lee
6 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings,
I was on holiday to the African conservation cent re for wild life's - and met the deal . it was cheap price and it is very quality in purity and carats. internationally
I had to buy it and store it for some time.
Lee
Mr Lee
Doesn't sound like you acted wisely, more on impulse. Did you get it tested independently?
Malcolm Reynolds
7 April
Hello Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes the gold was tested by the Geological survey department with the ministry of mines i even contacted the customs approval testing department to have a look at it also before the storage.
To make sure it was Good .. for delivery .internationally.
We are on the safe side.
Lee.
Mr Lee
In that case, please send a copy of the results.
Malcolm Reynolds
And Mal received a copy of the results (which I’ll post separately).
Mr Lee,
If my math is kosher, selling the gold in Australia would net somewhere over $300,000. How much did you pay for it?
Malcolm Reynolds
8 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I paid for each kilo 32,000 Dollars ...X 7 kg.
Its totaling 224,000 Dollars.
Mr.Lawrence
Mr Lee
Take away what you spent and the result is maybe $80,000 to $100,000. Since most of that would be yours, it's not much of a return for me.
Malcolm Reynolds
8 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynold,
ONCE YOU PAY OFF THE STORAGE CHARGES 2,850 DOLLARS. I spend $224,000 .
AND THE GOODS IS SHIPPED TO YOUR COUNTRY. WE ARE CAPABLE OF SELLING and making alot profit.
IN AUSTRALIA DOLLARS WE ARE MAKING A GOOD PROFIT.
per kilog.international market is
AUD $48,632 AND IN USA DOLLARS IT IS $50,616 TODAYS PRICE.
so there is a lot profit.
even if we sell a little lower..
i bot it for 32,000 DOllars in Ghana.
Regards,
Lawrence
Mr Lee
Even at full price the return would be $130,000 over what you paid. If we pro-rate the costs you get 98%, which would give me about $2,600. Even if you give me back the costs threefold, that would give me under $12,000. There's also the need to go through a licensed dealer, which is going to bring down the profit.
Malcolm Reynolds
9 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes you are right.!
the return is good profit. and if a licensed dealer is going to reduce the profit a little, that is no problem.
and for your effort i agree to give you 15 % of the profit.
once we complete the first deal , i can come to africa and purchase more and we continue in the business to benefit both parties.
please give me your full contact details and names so i send to the company , to wait for you to contact them.
.I want us to move the goods this week.
Please contact the safe keeping company today and let proceed.
In his anxiety, LSK gave the company’s details twice.
10 April
HELLO MR.MALCOLM REYNOLDS,
GREETINGS.
I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THE COMPANY AND WAITING YOUR RESPONSE.
YOU CAN CONTACT THE COMPANY DIRECTLY.
THANKS
LEE
Mr Lee,
15% isn't enough, as I don't intend to continue with gold trading. 30% would be my share.
Malcolm Reynolds
11 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds
25%
Lets start with 25%.
we are both benefiting from the deal. gradually we make more profits.
Lee
30% is my only offer. It's your call.
12 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Alright we are in 1 accord .30% is yours.
I have contacted the company to inform them that my partner to receive the items will contact them please contact them too.
The fee is to roundup the transaction is $2,850 USD.
--------
Here is contact details of the company.
REDACTED
------------------------------
and his expecting you to contact him.
Regards,
Mr.Lee
But the other scammer contacted Mal first.
13 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
The Mirrow Security company is having boxes of 7kg gold and some few diamonds belonging to Lee Sam Kang family.
Mr.Lee Sam Kang came to our office and instruct us to ship to your location in Australia ,requesting we ship the boxes to your home address and that you are his receiver and Partner in business .
Please we have a company policy and undertaking to items stored here.
We are to be paid storage fees or demur-age charges,which I believe you know this things in any storage house.
Before we ship goods or items and properties belonging to our depositors .
1. the Storage charges must be paid
2. Receiving end have to be in agreement with the depositor/owner if different receiver in good faith .
3. Give us your full address to enable us effect the delivery with our delivery network. under our insurance protection.
Try to understand us .we are doing every best to serve our depositors better .
MAKE PAYMENT VIA MONEY GRAM .
The charges is 2,850 Dollars
Receiver Names: IDRISU YAKUBU
Country: GHANA
City: ACCRA
AMOUNT: $2850 DOLLARS.
SEND THE PAYMENT INFORMATION
try to call + lines are open: REDACTED.
The total amount to roundup the process is 3,200 GBP Pounds .
Yours in service
Mr. Pascal Eric
DIRECTOR
MIRROR SECURITY PROPERTY LTD. GH.
OK, I’ve mostly played nice. That’s going to change.
Mr Eric
Two things should be made clear at this point.
[1] No money will be sent by Moneygram (or any other transfer system). I will only pay fees to a bank account.
[2] No fees will be paid without an invoice.
I trust that you understand me fully.
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Try to contact the company today
So we can move forward.
contact Mr. Pascal Eric.
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee
I contacted Pascal Eric so don't pester me.
Malcolm Reynolds
14 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Here is bank details.
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make the payment and send us a payment slip or transfer slip given to you by your bank as proof of payment for our office use.
Best regards,
Mr.Pascal Eric.
15 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings .
Please today is Monday has the company responded to you .
regards,
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
What part of "Don't pester me" don't you get?
Malcolm Reynolds
15 April
Mr. Malcolm, I am very sorry .16 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I sent you this same information on Saturday last week and also with copy of the invoice.
hope you make the payment via this bank details .
Here is bank details.
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make the payment and send us a payment slip or transfer slip given to you by your bank as proof of payment for our office use.
Best regards,
Mr.Pascal Eric.
Mr Pascal
The transfer was made at 1430 my time and the transfer slip is already on its way to you.
Malcolm Reynolds
17 April
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Ok .Scan and send to me the transfer slip.
yours in service
Mr.Pascal Eric
Mr Eric
The transfer slip is in the post. It should be with you by the end of the week or possibly Monday. In any event, we can now move on the next stage.
Malcolm Reynolds
What you do is scan and send a copy that is all for endorsement. very important
17 April 2013
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
My banker said the transfer of funds has not reflected here in Ghana . Sometimes it takes some 3 days due to your Australian system . Please scan the payment slip and send to us via email .
I have to cash the funds before we process the release of the boxes to clear the storage charges and also the shipping fees.
As you can see it is very important the funds reflect here in the Bank Account so I can cash it for the expenses. so a little patience and try to get the payment slip from your bank again and scan.. via email
Please send your full contact details telephone numbers .
Yours in Service,
Mr. Pascal Eric,
By sheer chance, I overheard a remark in my workplace about gold prices falling. What else can I do...?
Mr Pascal
I've stopped the payment in any event, so destroy the slip when you receive it.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee,
The deal is off as the drop in gold prices makes it of no interest to me.
Malcolm Reynolds
17 April 2013
Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
My banker said the transfer of funds has not reflected here in Ghana . Sometimes it takes some 3 days due to your Australian system . Please scan the payment slip and send to us via email .
I have to cash the funds before we process the release of the boxes to clear the storage charges and also the shipping fees.
As you can see it is very important the funds reflect here in the Bank Account so I can cash it for the expenses. so a little patience and try to get the payment slip from your bank again and scan.. via email
Please send your full contact details telephone numbers .
Yours in Service,
Mr. Pascal Eric,
Mr Pascal
I am not taking the gold and that's final.
Malcolm Reynolds
Time to reinforce the message with a phone call.
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18 April
Hello Mr.Malcolm Reynolds,
Gold price Going down is no much problem it does not affect us.
Its a normal thing about gold business and all other market globally.
Even at the price right now,we still have a profit to make.
I bought each kilogram at 32,000 USD in africa and if the price in australia is going for bout 42,000 Dollars per kg . we are still at a point of making profit.
The price is going to go high soon, that is why we have to get the gold down to your country to keep it . or sell at the current price and still make profit.
I want us to use the money as soon as we sell to buy at very cheap price here in african now it is about 25,000 Dollars per kilogram.
so we have to ship the 7 kg and diamonds to your country sell at current price and you take your 30% profit and I get my 70% and then return back money so we continue to buy more gold here in african to Australia and europe... The future of our business relationship is what we have to look at.
Please be rest assured and go to your bank and make the payment into bank account given to you by Security company.
All is well.
regards,
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
I'm not a business man - I'm a retired US Marine. What I know about business could be printed in 48-point type on the palm of my hand. What I do know is math, and that what you paid and the current price, 30% would get me a pittance.
I'm not a gambler by temperament, and you're asking me to gamble against the odds of prices suddenly shooting up. That is simply not acceptable.
Malcolm Reynolds
18 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I read your mail and its clear to me.
we are both working things out and want to make profit . There is no way we can run at a loss in the deal.
With this first deal done, yes we be having profit. once we now invest the main capital to Ghana, at 25,000 Per kg we are going to buy more gold and we make more profit in the next sales together. In every 2 weeks interval..we make shipment.
A fall in price only gives room for people to Buy and store GOld that is the secret , it does not get spoil t , Later world economy in American Europe Australia will move it up again .
(Gold price does not Go below 40,000 international. )
That is why all gold investors and merchants are doing now. Lets take advantage too. we are not loosing any coin.
Lets finish the first deal now. and move to buy the second cheap price at 25,000 that is more profit for us.
Please contact the company and make the payment to enable the first shipment .
Regards
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
I am not a businessman by temperament. Perhaps I can find people who would be interested, because I have no desire to take up gold trading.
Malcolm Reynolds
19 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I really appreciate your effort now, I want us to ship the gold to Australia.
I will be there to take care of the sales together with you so there be no fear of loss since you are not into gold much. in the process you get to understand it.
its better than bring in other people to complicate..
Please try to understand me ok.
That is why i said contact the company and lets move on. the fewer the more the profit us.
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee,
It's better to work with an expert than an uninterested amateur. I'll find people who trade in gold and specie and put them in touch with you.
Malcolm Reynolds
19 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
I am a professional and that is why I said we move the gold to Australia Just you and I .
I will travel to meet with you and we sell it together.
We maintain profit margins. this is the best way.
We have to ship first to arrive it there and then We can move to get any professional or we move directly to Jewelry dealers who normally buy gold.
Which we are still making profit.
as it is now we still have about 10,000 profit on each kg.X 7 kg.. that is 70,000 Dollars total.
Profit sharing = 30%;70% =
30,000 for you and 70,000 for me.
we put the main capital into business again. and buy at 25,000 from Ghana now. we will be making more than the first deal ... with more quantity ..
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
You bought the gold on impulse while being a tourist, so you aren't a professional gold trader. I can actually find someone who knows about trading gold - don't just push that option away.
Malcolm Reynolds
20 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings to you and family.
See prices are already going high..
please lets make good use of the chance . to sell this first set of gold and buy more at cheaper rate now..
price is already appreciating its moving up again. contact the company and lets move the goods I am going to join you and we sell the goods to guide the deal to a success.
Please contact the company .
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
Don't write to me - I'll write to you.
Malcolm Reynolds
21 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes , I bought it on tourist trip. that is the opportunity that follows and with my knowledge of gold i grab it. Bringing in a professional is really good. and best when we already landed the gold in your country. So it becomes hot cake and even we can sell at higher price extra for you and me.
That is why i said we ship first. once it is face to face . every jewelry shop owner or gold dealer can pay higher price to receive it and store it for somemore time to increase profit also that
is how gold business is. and as you can see the price is appreciating higher and higher again.
If we move the goods this new week it will be very good.
Hope you enjoyed your weekend.
Mr.Lee
23 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Please have you contacted the company to make the payment.
Please do ok so we can move on .
Mr.Lee.
Mr Lee
I haven't made any payment because I'm not accepting the gold. I'm looking for a buyer.
Malcolm Reynolds
23 April
Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Greetings.
Good idea to look for buyer.
Try to listen to me ok.
1. We ship the gold to your country.
2. we get a gold jewelry shop to buy it.
that is all.
first , they must see the gold in Australia that is why i want us to ship first.
This is how business is done.
That is why i said contact the company and let proceed with shipment.
if you talk tosomeone for gold , they have to see it first in
australia.
Regards,
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee
There is no "we" as far as I'm concerned. Once I secure a buyer for the gold, I'm out. The shipment will be his concern, not mine.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee
I've cc'd a man from England who's more able to do a deal with you - I met him in Alice Springs in early December. His name is Mr P... and you should get on fine.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee
Don't say I'm not generous - I've copied this one to a lady in Miami who would be more than welcome to hear about getting gold. Silvina Valdez is a fine lady and... well, after I met her, for a fair while all other women were like shadows and ghosts!
Malcolm Reynolds
24 April
Mr. Reynolds, why are you talking this way . We are going to get a buyer , but first the gold has to be shipped to your country.
this way we can maintain our profit formula.
Mr.Lee
Good let her contact me,
Mr Lee
You have her email address - why don't you get the ball rolling? It would look more professional that way.
Malcolm Reynolds
Mr Lee
Silvina lives in Miami and Mr Q... comes from England. There's no point shipping gold here if the buyer lives elsewhere, right?
Malcolm Reynolds
Hello Mr. Reynolds , I have sent email to both of them and making reference to your names as my friend and partner.
Hope to receive mail from them.
Mr. Lee
25 April
Hello Mr. Malcolm Reynolds,
Please could you talk to the both persons , i sent them emails and have not heard from them about the gold.
we need to work with time ..
Mr.Lee
Mr Lee
Try them again. I am not your message service.
Malcolm Reynolds
27 April
Mr.Malcolm,
sir,
i am communicating .
thanks
Mr.Lee
And what happened after that is a tale for others to tell.