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Post by Frazzle on Apr 26, 2020 14:54:36 GMT
A message I received out of the blue from a "man of God" asking me if the payment had been sent. Had no previous communication with this idiot up to this point. This idiot was either running multiple formats and confused things on his end OR I just got lucky. Anyway---How did we get here? Oh it has been a hell of a ride. "My character is Joseph Lenny Wilson"(name changed to protect his false identity). He goes by Len > He is a cantankerous old man who is hard of hearing, he confuses easily and ends up driving these vile scumbags crazy. I have been working on this bait for a few weeks, and it started before I was invited here, and as such it needs to be organized to post. So How did we get here? Well I will work on organizing it and bringing you all up to speed. It has been fun to get to this point. I received this message from our Faux "Man of God" this morning..... PLEASE I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE ANY MORE I TALK THE PAYMENT SLIP TO THE BANK THEY SAY I SHOULD TELL YOU TO ASK THE MONEY GRAM WHERE YOU SEND THE MONEY HERE THEY USED THERE MACHINE TO FINE OUT WHERE THE MONEY WAS PICK THE BANK HERE SAY YOU ARE A FAKE MAN YOU JUST SEND MONEY GRAM SLIP FAKE TRANSFER EVEN THE CONTROL NUMBER DID NOT REFLECT FROM THE SYSTEM IF THE PICK THE MONEY THE BANK HERE WOULD HAVE KNOW SO PLEASE BACK OFF AND DO THE NORMAL TRANSFER WITH THE MTCN FOLLOW WITH THE SLIP IF YOU WANT YOUR ATM VISA CARD WORTH 8000.000USD YOU HAVE TO SEND THAT MONEY DIRECT TO ME WITH THE MTCN NUMBER WITHOUT THAT I WILL NOT RESPONSE YOUR MAIL AS FROM TOMORROW
PEACE BE WITH YOU WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY
My character has sent the required 2000.00 fee (was supposed to be 200.00 told you my character confuses easily The receiver had a hard time with the automated system after calling twice and not getting verified. She lied to this idiot said she called a third time (she didn't) and gave him a bogus reference number said she could not claim the money. So of course a report was generated saying she passed the automated screening a reference number was generated (of course different from the one she gave him > and the payment was picked up. We have been going back and forth since Thursday. Now this idiot wants me to forget about the 2000.00 I already sent and send him another payment directly to him? Good luck with that bwahahah...
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 26, 2020 18:03:24 GMT
While it is going to take some time to get you all up to date on this, Mission somewhat accomplished. I have created distrust between the scammer and his "agent" We have had some interesting exchanges this morning and I will be posting this bait in order...but here is the latest from my Character
I don't want to hear anymore nonsense from you. You have the documentation FROM MONEYGRAM showing the money was sent by me and picked up by angela you have angela giving you a bogus mtcn/reference number and telling you she did not pick up the money the number she give you does not match the number moneygram give her this is all documented BY MONEYGRAM. You have a thief in your ranks Bishop.
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Post by Admin on Apr 26, 2020 21:26:27 GMT
Nice bait! I look forward to reading it in the chronological order you spoke of posting.
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 27, 2020 11:28:16 GMT
So this is how it all started. 10 days ago I received, out of the blue this communique from our idiot, Bishop Philip ...and after a little bit of back and forth...JW finally agrees to pay the shipping fee
Dear Brother may the lord be with you i am still waiting for your update because the bank want me to return the ATM visa card back since you are not capable to pay for the shipment please i want to know your stand
Thank you
rev bishop Philip
This might be a mistake. Are you sure you have the rite person? I am not aware of any ATM card
Lenny
YES AS SOON THE SHIPMENT FEES IS PAID IT WILL MOVE TO YOUR COUNTRY
make the payment through western union or moneygram or ria transfer Receiver's Name: SULE ANGELA
Amount: 180Euros only.
M.T.C.N: nos ……………… ..
Question: ............. YES
Answer: ……… ..YES
City: Ouagadougou.
Country: Burkina Faso.
Thank you
I think this is a mistake. I do not know of any of this. You do not have the rite person. I am very confuse.
MAY THE LORD BE WITH YOU I ASK AGAIN MAY I TAKE THE ATM VISA CARD WORTH 8000.000USD BACK TO THE BANK I WANT TO KNOW YOUR STAND NOT BY TOMORROW YOU WILL BE TELLING PEOPLE YOU MONEY IS WITH ME
about an hour later
Dear Brother >> >> may the lord be with you i am still waiting for your update because >> >> the bank want me to return the ATM visa card back since you are not >> >> capable to pay for the shipment please i want to know your stand >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> rev bishop Philip
several hours later
sir i do not understand any of this
Our idiot's most convincing reply.
money was kept by some one to give you
ok
when will you send the money
confused JW gets a little agitated
I DONT KNOW WHAT ANY OF THIS IS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT MONEY I AM SUPPOSED TO SEND. WHO I AM SUPPOSED TO SEND IT TO, OR WHAT IT IS EVEN FOR. I KEEP TELLING YOU THIS
make the payment through western union or moneygram or ria transfer FOR THE SHIPMENT TO YOUR COUNTRY
THE SHIPMENT OF WHAT?
180EUROS FOR THE SHIPMENT OF YOUR ATM VISA CARD WORTH 8000.000USD
at this point he has never asked me for my details, ID, nothing. He does not know where I am. Notice the difference in currency. I am supposed to pay in EUROS for my fund in US DOLLARS? So my character gives him a succinct reply
Ok, thank you
WHEN WILL YOU SEND IT
Will you please go back and read my previous emails? You have not told me who to send it to or how much the fee is. You must be confuse because I am in the USA and we don't use Eros
make the payment through western union or money gram or ria transfer FOR THE SHIPMENT fess
Thank you for clarifying. I will try to get it done tomorrow but my Sundays always have me spread thin. So I will send the payment tomorrow via moneygram to bishop philip. Consider it done
okay bless you as soon as i confirm the payment tomorrow by Tuesday the ATM visa card will come to your country doorstep
you still havent given me the payment info (sure he has, three different times, but he doesn't know that )
Make the payment through western union or money gram or ria transfer
(he resends receiver info)
WHY DO YOU KEEP ASKING FOR EUROS? WE DO NOT USE EUROS HERE I LIVE IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
yes you covert it to your dollars please make sure you send your information along the payment slip tomorrow morning i mean your correct house address where you want the ATM visa card to deliver to
Before I could blast the idiot for wanting me to convert it he sends me this...
please it will give you 200 United States Dollar you are going to send 200usd
OK I will send later today.
As I previously mentioned...my character is an old man and confuses easily. Sometimes he transposes numbers and sometimes he misreads >
I was not able to make it to the Moneygram outlet today. I will send the 2000 usd in the morning
Surely our Bishop...a self proclaimed Man of God is an honest man and he will correct old JW and tell him to only send 200 usd right?
okay waiting for your payment confirmation all the whole arrangement have be put in place send it along with your correct house address so that we will not make mistake
five hours later he sends these two emails less than a minute apart
okay waiting for your payment confirmation all the whole arrangement have be put in place send it along with your correct house address so that we will not make mistake
i am still waiting for the confirmation payment today
Good Morning,
Of course you are...you sent this at 7am Monday morning. I am leaving out now to run a few errands and will be going by Moneygram to send the 2,000.00 per your direction. I will be sending Moneygram Secure Service. I will get you the slip later today.
Lenny
Hi I have made the payment have one more stop to make and then when I get home I will scan and send you the slip Be Blessed Lenny
Sir As I said I made the 2000.00 payment via Moneygram Secure Service. Attached please find a photo of the slip. Also you asked me to reconfirm my address.... XXXX What are the next step?
Moneygram Safe Pay slip attached. Our idiot is silent for almost 9 hours. JW is getting a bit nervous. 2000.00 USD is a lot of money for JW.
Sir,
Please acknowledge receipt and tell me what next step is
Hello??
7 hours later
Bishop How about an update?
What is going on here? When can I expect my ATM Card Fund?
please sorry for the late reply i am in the hospital as soon i confirm it i will get back to you
please the slip is not clear can i have the MTCN NUMBER
No you can not have the MTCN number. Only the receiver can get the MTCN number. I told you I was going to send the money via Moneygram Secure Pay. I don't have the reference number and you can not get it. Only the receiver can get it. This is for security purpose. Just needs to follow the instructions on the slip. Call the # provided and follow the prompts. It is an automated system and takes less than 2 minutes. This is all explained on the payment slip.
Lenny
PLEASE I DONT THINK YOU ARE SERIOUS WHEN YOU MAKE A PAYMENT THEY GIVE YOU THE MTCN
PLEASE YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TELL THEM TO GIVE YOU THE MTCN
OK LETS TRY THIS AGAIN. I SENT THE MONEY WITH MONEYGRAM SECURE PAY. THIS IS FOR ADDED SECURITY. I SEND YOU THE SLIP. CAN YOU NOT READ THE SLIP? THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE THERE. ALL THE RECEIVER HAS TO DO IS CALL THE # PROVIDED FOLLOW THE PROMPTS IN THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM AND THEY WILL RELEASE THE MTCN. ITS NOT BIG DEAL. QUIT MAKING IT A PROBLEM AND TELL RECEIVER TO DO THEIR JOB
I TELL YOU I WAS SENDING IT WITH SECURE PAY AND YOU HAD NO OBJECTION. NOW STOP WASTING TIME
OKAY NO PROBLEM
WHEN WILL THE RECEIVER PICK UP THE MONEY? WHEN WILL I RECEIVE MY FUND?
AS SOON SHE RECEIVE IT I WILL GET BACK TO YOU
THE RECEIEVER JUST CALL THEM NOW NO MTCN
hello What do you mean no MTCN? Well for starters moneygram does not use MTCN. so there is that. So when Angela picks up the money today when will i get my fund?
PLEASE SHE SAY SHE DID NOT GET THE MONEY SORRY BY TOMORROW I WILL RETURN YOUR ATM VISA CARD BACK TO THE BANK
Why did she not get the money? what is the problem? I Can get back with moneygram but I need to know what the problem is?
The automated system is simple. I believe all it asks for is her name, my name, reason for the transfer which is a business transaction and that is it. Should not be difficult So please tell me what the problem is
What is the problem? When can I expect my funds?
Will you please explain to me what the delay is ?
so please go back and take your money send it through western union
i don't know what the ask her sorry go back and take your money as soon tomorrow i did not get the mtcn i will take the card to the bank simple i repeat go back take your money go to western union money transfer and make the payment let us have the payment slip and the reference number
I check with moneygram and it turns out the reference number was denied because your receiver can not follow dsimple instructions. The email me report of transaction explain why there was a problem. Angela did not listen to the automated system and answer appropriately.
She is not the sender...I am. Why did she give her name when they ask her to verify sender. I am the sender L W . IT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE RECEIPT.
Also this is for a BUSINESS TRANSACTION...why did she answer "to buy food"... I am not going back to moneygram and sending via western union that is stupid and a waste of my time.
Tell Angela to PAY ATTENTION and answer the questions properly and they will release reference number.
I am the sender.....this is a business transaction, we are business associates and have known each other 2 weeks.
Why is this hard? Tell Angela to call back, answer the questions properly and pick up the money. The report is attached....I am not going t be inconvenienced due to her incompetence.
Tell Angela to call back...LISTEN, FOLLOW INSTRUCTION and ANSWER PROPERLY
a few hours later
Bishop...
Get Angela to get her shit together...get back on the phone, get it right, get the reference number pick up the payment and transfer my damn fund this is ridiculous
Our idiot is getting a bit impatient
i will tell her but she fail it again you go back and take your money i am a man OF GOD VERY BUSY MAN I HAVE PEOPLE TO PRAY FOR PLEASE AFTER TOMORROW DONE BOTHER ME IF YOU CAN NOT SEND THE MTCN NUMBER IMMEDIATELY YOUR ATM VISA CARD WILL BE TAKEN TO THE BANK BEFORE THE BANK WILL ANSWER YOU YOU WILL FILL ANOTHER FORM THAT WILL COST YOU ALOT OF MONEY DO THE RIGHT THING NOW
THANK YOU REMAIN BLESS
Listen
I send you the report. She did not follow the procedure. It will be no problem if she just pay attention and follow procedure. Be Blessed and pray for her success
MY DEAR BROTHER IN THE LORD I HAVE TOLD YOU TO GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR MONEY I AM NOT FORCING YOU TO PAY IT IS JUST THAT I HAVE THE ATM VISA CARD IN MY POSITION SINCE YOU DID NOT LIKE IT THAT WAY YOU FACE THE BANK THAT IS ALL AND IF BY TOMORROW I DID NOT CONFIRM THE MTCN NUMBER YOUR CARD WILL MOVE TO THE BACK I WILL REMOVE MY HAND FROM IT
As soon as the receiver follows the instructions of Moneygram Secure Pay automated system the payment will be confirmed and received. I send you the report from Moneygram showing the mistakes the receiver made. And there is a question for you....i assume she is a member of your flock? Why would she lie? Have her simply call back and do her job. Why should I be inconvenienced because of her incompetence?
please you check it again it pass it how on earth money gram have mtcn 2114826355493620
please go back and take your money thank you or you face the bank i hope you don't have ant excuse to give again
Obviously that is neither a reference number OR MTCN. His receiver is lying to him which provided a wonderful direction for this bait. BWAHAHA
What is the meaning of this. Who is making up numbers? That is not a moneygram reference number. Angela is lying to you. She did not call back and do it properly. She is the one making excuses and wasting both our time. Tell her to do her job and pick up the monies already. I am beginning to lose patience with her incompetence and your acceptance of her incompetence.
well Dear brother is not my problem any more the bank ask me to return the ATM visa card to them sorry by tomorrow i will be handing over the card to the bank if i did not have the money for the shipment you yourself check it again and see what the number they call for her both of you and the money gram are not even know what you are doing say rev bishop Philip
Stop this nonsense. I CAN NOT CALL AND GET THE REFERENCE NUMBER ONLY THE RECEIVER CAN. This was send with Moneygram Secure Pay. ONLY THE RECEIVER can get the number. Angela is lying to you. I just get off phone with moneygram customer service...Angela did not call back in and do it right. They have no record of her calling back in. She is lying to you. I encourage you to admonish her for her incompetence and lying to you. This is unacceptable as a man of God AND as a professional. Admonish her for lying and tell her to do her job so that my card can be sent.
MEANS THE YOU BA LYING THEM I WAS WITH HER WHEN SHE CALL THEM YOU AND THE UBA LIE GOD SEE YOUR THROUGH IS YOUR MONEY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE 8000.000USD I HAVE TOLD YOU BY SATURDAY IF I DID NOT CONFIRM IT BY MONDAY I TAKE IT TO THE BANK PLEASE
IF YOU CA NOT CALL THEM GO THERE AND TAKE YOUR MONEY BACK
Bishop There is no record of her calling again. You are LYING if you are claiming such a thing. Of course I can not call them I AM NOT THE FUCKING RECEIVER. She call 2X yesterday. First time she hung up during the telephone line check and the second time was the time the report was generate that I send you. It is an 8 digit reference number. She is lying if she say she called again, and you are lying saying you were with her when she call. Stop this nonsense.
ASK THE UBA CHECK THE PHONE ASK HOW CAN A MAN OF GOD LIE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH PLEASE IS OKAY IS YOUR MONEY YOU WANT TO CLAIM NOT MINE BUT IF THE ATM VISA CARD GET BACK TO THE BANK YOU WILL PAY HUGE AMOUNT TO FILL THE BANK FORM AGAIN HAVE THAT IN YOUR MIND BY MONDAY I WILL RETURN IT IF I DID NOT GET THE PAYMENT THIS WEEK
A man of God is still a man. A man that is going astray here. Sir there is no record of her calling again I check with moneygram. IF she would have called again there would be a report available showing she passed and got the reference number or failed. THERE WAS NO CALL. THE NUMBER YOU GAVE ME IS MADE UP BULLSHIT
(she actually did call i missed the call initially in the system update but he does not need to know that)
WELL THEN YOU HAD BETTER GET WITH ANGELA, AND GET HER TO DO THE JOB. BECAUSE THE PAYMENT IS SITTING AT MONEYGRAM WAITING FOR HER TO PICK UP. I HAVE SEND THE PAYMENT. IT IS THERE TO BE PICKED UP. THE PROBLEM IS ON YOUR END NOT MINE. FIX IT
NOT ME I STILL TELL YOU GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR MONEY
BUT THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE PAYMENT. IT IS STUPID FOR ME TO GO BACK AND GET A REFUND. I AM NOT DOING IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON TO DO IT. THE MONEY WAS SEND FOR THIS TRANSACTION I DID MY PART. NOW ANGELA NEEDS TO DO HER PART SO YOU CAN DO YOURS. GET IT DONE
DEAR BROTHER
THANK FOR YOUR MAIL I HAVE TRY TO TELL YOU THE RIGHT THING NOW GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR MONEY RESEND IT TO THE WESTERN UNION THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE REFERENCE NUMBER DIRECT THAT IS ALL FOR NOW TILL I SEE THE REFERENCE NUMBER I WILL NOT REPLY YOUR MAIL OR I WILL ADVICE YOU TO COME DOWN TO TAKE IT BY YOURSELF HERE IN MY COUNTRY FINAL
Is he trying to get old JW to safari?
THAT IS YOUR MONEY YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR MONEY DONT LOSE 8000.000USD ALL BECAUSE OF 200USD SO IF EITHER YOU COME DOWN HERE TO BURKINA FASO AND TAKE IT BY YOURSELF OR RESEND IT THROUGH WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER THANK YOU
What do you mean 200 dollars. You told me 2000 dollars...that is what I send. You can't even get the fee right? Now enough of this bullshit. I WILL NOT BE INCONVENIENCED BECAUSE OF YOUR INCOMPETENCE. YOUR LIES ABOUT ANGELA CALLING AGAIN ARE VERY TROUBLING. SHE DID NOT CALL AGAIN THE MONEY WAS SENT VIA MONEYGRAM SECURE PAY FOR SECURITY PURPOSE A SIMPLE PHONECALL VERIFIES THE TRANSACTION AND RELEASES THE REFERENCE NUMBER I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE INCONVENIENCED BECAUSE OF YOUR INCOMPETENCE.
FIX IT ON YOUR END ALREADY STOP WITH THIS RUBBISH
(again she did call I was still not aware of that at this point)
DEAR BROTHER PEACE BE WITH YOU WHEN CALL THEM I WILL NOT LIE TO YOU I AM A MAN OF GOD AND WITH THIS NOW IF I CALL MY GOD SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN WILL WILL KNOW WHO IS TELL THE TRUTH THE MONEY GRAM LIE SHE USED 3 MINUTES YOU ASK THEM IF THEY WILL TELL YOU SHE CALL THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU SAY SHE DID NOT CALL I GET ANGRY WHEN I KNOW SHE DID SO SORRY GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR MONEY MAKE IT THROUGH WESTERN UNION
THE RECEIVER CALL THEM IF THE SAY SHE DID NOT CALL I WILL FAST FOR THEM SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN FOR THEM TO SAY SHE NOT CALL
THE UBA LIE IF THEY THE RECEIVER DID NOT CALL THEM TODAY THAT IS BIG LIE I WILL WORK FOR WORK THEM THEY WANT TO FOOL THE MAN OF GOD
Listen Bishop....enough of this bullshit.
Angela made 2 calls yesterday. One she hang up during the phone line check and the other she gave wrong answers. The phone number is a phone number specific to this transaction so they have record of how many times it was called. I just check with moneygram AGAIN and they tell me the same thing. How do I benefit by telling you she did not call if she did. I send 2000.00 via moneygram secure pay as directed by you. I will not be inconvenienced because of Angela lies and incompetence. I will lose money if I go reclaim the money and send via another method. The money has been sent. The payment has been made. The payment of 2000.00 is waiting to be picked up by the person you designated, not me. Angela is LYING to you. The moneygram reference # is an 8 digit number plain and simple. If Angela did call back and get a reference number there would be a record of the call and it would only be 8 digits.
Ask the hard question Bishop. When the automated system ask for senders name why did she give her own and not mine? That is incompetence. Why did she lie and tell them the payment was to buy food? It is a business transaction.
THE PROBLEM IS ON YOUR END. THE DELAY IS ON YOUR END. THE INCOMPETENCE IS ON YOUR END. FIX IT
please enough of all this nonsense she call this money receiver spend 3 minute answer the question please go back and take your money go to western union and send it i have told you what to do for your to get your atm visa card worth 8000.000usd
If the receiver did show me now i will is through the uba lie i still repeat my word
Dear brother
try to go back and take your money if you dont want to lose the 8000.000usd please go to western union or ria transfer they will provide the reference number
yes she spend 3 minutes AND ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS WRONG. I SEND YOU THE REPORT OF THAT CALL CAN YOU NOT FUCKING READ? DIRECT HER TO CALL, ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS PROPERLY GET THE MTCN AND COLLECT THE DAMNED MONEY. IT IS HER FUCKING JOB
ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT ALREADY. GET IT DONE
i am talking of today call 3minute I have you told you what to do fail by thus week by monday i take the card back to the bank final
THERE WAS NO CALL MADE TODAY. SHE IS LYING TO YOU. NO CALL WAS MADE TODAY PER MONEYGRAM. NO REPORT OF THAT CALL IS AVAILABLE TODAY. ENOUGH OF THIS NONSENSE. SHE DID NOT CALL TODAY AND ANSWER PROPERLY. SHE IS LYING TO YOU
SHE IS LYING TO YOU
AND I HAVE DONE WHAT YOU HAVE TOLD ME TO DO . ANGELA IS LYING TO YOU. SHE MADE 2 CALLS YESTERDAY 0 CALLS TODAY
PLAIN AND SIMPLE
FIX IT
PROBLEM IS ON YOUR END NOT MINE
2000.00 IS WAITING FOR ANGELA TO PICK UP. GET IT DONE
Our idiot was so pissed off at this point he sent me this email about 20 times...exact same wording
22/4/2020 time of calling 07.28 if you lie to me with this i will not response to your mail again check it now
and then this
now i have know the truth the receiver tell the truth you and the uba lie lord have mercy over you
About this time I realized that the other call was made...and while she still got shit wrong on the call, she gave him a made up reference number and said it was no good, so I saw the opportunity to make our idiot think she collected and kept the money for herself ... stay tuned
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 27, 2020 12:24:14 GMT
So Picking up from where we left off....completed report from moneygram attached.... Bishop,
Praise Jesus. Angela finally figure it out. Looks like she finally made the call properly and as of 9:27 am my local time the funds have been picked up. Just received the report from Moneygram. Allow me to cite a bible passage that I believe is relevant to the situation at hand. So glad to hear Angela persisted and did not give up.
For the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity. Proverbs 24:16
It is wonderful that we can finally move forward. When can I expect my card to arrive?
Lenny
SO WHERE IS THE REFERENCE NUMBER AND WHO PICK THE MONEY I CAN SEE YOU ARE A JOKER
of course the reference number moneygram gave her is right there on the report provided showing it was picked up >
YOU YOURSELF I WANT YOU TO GIVE THEM THE 21148363
Bishop what kind of bullshit are you coming through with me now? THE MONEY WAS PICKED UP...I send you the report showing that. You need to take this up with Angela not me. Is she telling you something different?
Why is every step of this transaction nonsense with you?
FIX IT I WANT MY CARD
OH MY GOD IS NOW I KNOW YOU ARE JUST PLAYING WITH ME NOW I WILL LAY ACUSRE ON YOU AND YOUR HOUSE HOLD NOW CRY WILL NEVER STOP IN YOUR HOUSE FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION YOU ARE NOT AFRIAD PLAYING WITH A MAN OF GOD GO AND SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN
Sir where did that number come from? That is not the number moneygram give Angela per the report. Also you can not check Moneygram SECURE PAY #s on line. Again this is for SECURITY PURPOSE. That is why the receiver needs to call in. They call in verify...go to moneygram with the slip and the reference number given and pick up the funds. Stop with this nonsense. I am getting very frustrated with your discrepancy every step of the way.
FIX IT
When can I expect my card?
If Angela is giving you a number that is different than the number on the report.....and telling you she did not pick up the money SHE IS THE ONE LYING TO YOU NOT ME SHE HAS MY 2000.00 THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE. I SEND THE MONEY PER YOUR DIRECTION ANGELA FINALLY PICK UP THE MONEY AND YOU ARE CAUSING ME PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS ON YOUR FUCKING END. MY 2000 IS GONE AND YOU OWE ME A CARD SHIP THE FUCKING THING AND GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER
YOU LYER
WHAT KIND OF MAN ARE YOU YOU THINK YOU DONT HAVE ATM VISA CARD HERE SORRY TO LIE TO MAN OF GOD ANGELA NEVER TAKE THE MONEY THE FAKE NUMBER YOU BRING I SHOW YOU WHY ARE YOU FACING PERSON WHO DONT KNOW ANYTHING THAT HOW GOD WILL FACE YOU DONT DEAR ME AS YOU INSULT A MAN OF GOD PROBLEM YOU WILL BE LOOKING FOR ME TO FORGIVE YOU WHEN THE PROBLEM START IT WILL TOO LATE
What do you mean lyer? I send the money via moneygram to the receiver you designate. I am not the one lying here...Angela is. I want my card or my 2000.00 back. get it done
GO TO WHERE YOU MAKE THE PAYMENT THEY WILL TELL YOU LIES
THEY SENT ME THE REPORT IDIOT. MY 2000.00 HAS BEEN PICKED UP THIS MORNING MY TIME. I AM NOT SURE WHAT TIME IT IS FOR YOU Now ship my card I HAVE ALREADY LAY PROBLEM IN YOUR HOUSE HOLD CRY AND THINK YOU CHERISH MOST SHALL HAVE PROBLEM YOU WILL SEE OPEN YOUR MOUTH YOU WILL BE ABLE TO COVER IT
What does that gibberish mean? When can I expect my card to arrive? how will my card be shipped and when can I expect it?
Bishop Your silence is unacceptable. My 2000 dollars has been picked up and you are not communicating with me on the next step when can I expect my card ?
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A MAN OF GOD?
please within GOD AND MAN I DID NOT SEE YOUR PAYMENT SO I WILL ADVICE YOU TO GO BACK TO THE MONEY GRAM IF THROUGH YOU SEND THE MONEY I KNOW TOO WELL REV SISTER WILL NOT LIE TO ME SHE IS A SAVANT OF GOD I WARN YOU AGAIN DO LET ME PLACE ANOTHER CURSE ON YOU THIS TIME IT WILL HOT YOU IMMEDIATELY
I HAVE SHOW YOU YOUR ATM VISA CARD BY MONDAY THE CARD WILL MOVE TO THE BANK FINAL IF I DID NOT CONFIRM THE PAYMENT TOMORROW WITH THE REFERENCE NUMBER CORRECT
OK LETS TRY THIS AGAIN I WENT TO FUCKING MONEYGRAM MY MONEY HAS BEEN PICKED UP THEY GAVE ME THE PROOF IT HAS BEEN PICKED UP THE REASON YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE ANGELA IS LYING TO YOU AND SAYING SHE DID NOT PICK IT UP. I SEND YOU THE EVIDENCE FROM MONEYGRAM SHOWING IT HAS BEEN PICKED UP.
I HAVE GIVEN YOU CONIRMATION FROM MONEYGRAM SHOWING THE PAYMENT HAS BEEN PICKED UP.
THE RECEIVER YOU GIVE ME PICKED UP THE PAYMENT
THE 2000.00 PAYMENT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR ME TO RECLAIM PER MONEYGRAM.
GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER AND GET MY CARD SHIPPED
you see you and the money gram are fake sorry your atm card will go back to the bank final i mean my word
Here are your two choices Bishop You can ship my ATM card or you can return my ATM card to the bank I will contact the bank and show proof that I send the payment and it has been picked up this will not reflect well on you. now stop with this bullshit and ship my card
THIS IS THE BANK THE GIVE ME THE CARD UBA EMAIL ubaubagroup@outlook.fr
Bishop Here is the report AGAIN that you have had since THURSDAY <resent confirmation of pick up>
Angela is a liar and a thief. The only question now is are you dealing with this appropriately or are you complicit?
SHE DID TAKE MY MONEY I GIVE YOU PROOF AND I KNOW YOU ARE IN BURKINA FASO UBN BANK HAS LOCATIONS ALL OVER AFRICA AND THE WORLD
SO WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AS MEN? IF YOU ARE 100% MAN OF GOD AND 100% GENUINE YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM CALLING ME TO DISCUSS AS MEN 1-347-514-XXXX (lenny bot)
CALL ME +22674831647
NO YOU CALL ME
I AM ALREADY OUT 2000.00 YOU CAN MAKE THE PHONE CALL
When you all me you had better have some answers I don't want to hear bullshit. I want to know when to expect my card and how it is being shipped. no more no less.
And hopefully you fired Angela for incompetence and dishonesty
Come on Bishop call me to discuss
You are not a man of God. A man of God is a man of integrity. You are a man of bullshit. Can't even call me to discuss Angela the thief.
Bishop I know there is a time difference for us but there is no excuse for you not to have called. Hopefully it is because you are dealing with Angela and her lies and theft. I will be up for a little while longer you are welcome to call...otherwise this will have to wait until morning my time. Get your shit together and get back to me
I HAVE SHOW YOU YOUR ATM VISA CARD BY MONDAY THE CARD WILL MOVE TO THE BANK FINAL IF I DID NOT CONFIRM THE PAYMENT TOMORROW WITH THE REFERENCE NUMBER CORRECT
GAIN THE PAYMENT HAS BEEN PICKED UP. GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER AND GET MY CARD SHIPPED
you are your money gram are fake i show the money gram here them say fake (but the ATM card and 80000000 usd is real BWAHAHAHAH)
Here are your two choices Bishop You can ship my ATM card or you can return my ATM card to the bank I will contact the bank and show proof that I send the payment and it has been picked up
a man of God should not lie
PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE TELL YOU WITH THIS YOUR ATTITUDE I WILL RETURN YOUR CARD TOMORROW
So you are going to allow the 7th commandment to be violated and still call yourself a man of god? are you serious with this shit?
SEE THE BANK EMAIL ubaubagroup@outlook.fr BYE
MY ATTITUDE? YOU PIECE OF SHIT. YOU ALLOW 2000.00 TO BE STOLEN FROM ME AND EXPECT ME TO HAVE A GOOD ATTITUDE? ARE YOU SERIOUS WITH THIS SHIT?
PLEASE I DID NOT SEE THE MONEY WHAT KIND OF INSULT IS THIS
BECAUSE ANGELA STEAL IT WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR YOU TO FIGURE OUT. SHE GIVE YOU BOGUS REFERENCE NUMBER AND SAY IT IS NO GOOD I GIVE YOU DOCUMENT FROM MONEYGRAM SHOWING SHE PICK UP AND THE REFERENCE NUMBER IS DIFFERENT SHE STEAL THE MONEY NOW THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND HER YOU TELL ME TO SEND THE MONEY TO HER I SEND TO HER SHE PICK UP HER LIES TO YOU ARE NOT MY PROBLEM I WANT MY CARD. CALL ME TO DISCUSS 1-347-514-lennybot
WHAT IS ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF I WANT TO HELP I HAVE TOLD THE BANK I DONT NEED THIS ATM VISA CARD I KNOW IT WILL COME TO THIS FOR MAN TO BE INSULTING MAN OF GOD I KNOW SISTER ANGELA WILL NOT TAKE YOUR MONEY SHE IS A SAVANT OF GOD I TRUST HER SO MUCH
SHE DID TAKE MY MONEY I GIVE YOU PROOF AND I KNOW YOU ARE IN BURKINA FASO UBN BANK HAS LOCATIONS ALL OVER NIGERIA
SO WHY DON'T YOU CALL ME SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AS MEN? IF YOU ARE 100% MAN OF GOD AND 100% GENUINE YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM CALLING ME TO DISCUSS AS MEN
So you are allowing my money to be stolen? You won't call me to discuss? You are not a man o god. you are not even a man. you are a cowardly boy.
So I am out 2000.00 and no ATM card? And you call yourself a man of god? you are a boy coward
So is my card being returned to the bank?
Bishop you need to answer me, I have 2000.00 dollars that was stolen by YOUR receiver and I want my card
please talk to the money gram she never get the money while you know the reference number is not good how can she claim the money ask your money gram they are the best position to answer you
LISTEN TO ME. I TALKED TO MONEYGRAM THE MONEY HAS BEEN PICKED UP. THE REFERENCE NUMBER ON THE REPORT I GAVE YOU FROM MONEYGRAM WAS THE CORRECT REFERENCE NUMBER. ANGELA IS LYING TO YOU MAKING UP A REFERENCE NUMBER SAYING IT IS NO GOOD AND SHE DID NOT GET THE MONEY. SHE HAS STOLEN MY 2000 DOLLARS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW? YOU CLAIM TO BE A MAN OF GOD AND YOU WON'T ACCEPT THE EVIDENCE I HAVE GIVEN TO YOU. THE RECEIVER YOU GAVE ME HAS STOLEN MY MONEY. THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND HER. I SENT IT AND SHE RECEIVED IT.
SHIP MY CARD
BE A MAN AND CALL ME TO DISCUSS
okay send me the reference number you are talking about
I ALREADY DID. IT IS ON THE REPORT SHOWING SHE PICKED UP THE MONEY. I SEND THIS ALL TO YOU YESTERDAY. YOU HAVE IT. YOU HAVE HAD IT SINCE YESTERDAY.
STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE. YOU ALREADY HAVE IT. THE REFERENCE NUMBER ON THE REPORT I SENT YOU FROM MONEYGRAM IS DIFERENT FROM THE BULLSHIT NUMBER SHE MADE UP AND GAVE YOU SO SHE COULD STEAL MY MONEY. AGAIN THIS IS BETWEEN YOU AND HER. I WANT MY CARD OR MY 2000.00 BACK
2000.00 is a lot of money to me. And I am not sure why I should have to suffer because your assistant is less than honest. You are a man of God allegedly. I have shown you proof I have sent the money and I have shown you proof the money has been picked up. BECAUSE I sent it via Moneygram Secure Pay the ONLY person that could have claimed it is the receiver.
This is YOUR problem. You MUST as a Man of God ship my card.
please the report you send me can you resend it again with the reference number send the reference number again you said you got from the report
I just resent a report that you have had SINCE THURSDAY. Now I don't give a shit about the issue between you and Angela. Angela has collected my 2000.00. The theft of that money is between you and her. All I know is I have sent 2000.00 and you need to send my card.
get it done
i ask you the reference number is not there so you have to prove it
ARE YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE. LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FUCKING REPORT. ITS EVEN HIGHLIGHTED
I HAVE PROVED IT. YOU HAVE A PAYMENT SLIP SHOWING THE MONEY WAS SENT AND A REPORT SHOWING THE MONEY WAS PICKED UP.
YOU REFUSE TO CALL AND DISCUSS. YOUR DESIGNATED RECEIVER PICKED UP THE MONEY. I HAVE PROVIDED PROOF THE MONEY WAS SENT AND PICKED UP. THE REST IS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR RECEIVER.
SHIP MY FUCKING CARD OR SEND MY 2000.00 BACK
ALL I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU FROM HERE ON OUT IS CONGRATS LENNY, YOUR CARD IS ON THE WAY HERE IS THE TRACKING NUMBER
YOUR RECEIVER STEALING MY MONEY IS BETWEEN YOU AND HER.
// THAT IS ALL
YOU DO REALIZE SHE STOLE FROM ME AND YOU RIGHT?
YOU STILL NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION I DID NOT SEE THE WHERE THEY HIGHLIGHT THE REFERENCE NUMBER WRITE IT OUT YOU LYRE
IF THROUGH YOU MAKE THE PAYMENT WHY CAN T YOU CALL ME ON PHONE TO SEE THE SERIOUSNESS
IF YOU SURE OF YOURSELF SHOW ME WHERE THEY HIGHLIGHT THE REFERENCE NUMBER
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS WITH THIS SHIT? YOU ARE A MAN OF GOD ALLEGEDLY AND A GROWN ASS MAN AND YOU CAN'T READ A PIECE OF PAPER??? YOU HAVE HAD THIS INFORMATION SINCE FUCKING THURSDAY...
HERE IT IS CIRCLED IN FUCKING RED HIGHLIGHTED IN RED....ARE YOU BLIND, ILLITERATE OR STUPID?
Now ONCE AGAIN I have sent 2000.00 dollars per your direction...I have sent 2000.00 to YOUR ASSISTANT per YOUR instruction. I have provided the payment slip PER YOUR INSTRUCTION. The Payment slip FROM MONEYGRAM. AND I have provided proof...proof you have had SINCE THURSDAY that YOUR assistant received the funds. Also PRoof that YOUR ASSISTANT is LYING FROM YOU and TRYING TO STEAL FROM YOU because your assistant gave you a bogus reference number and claimed the transfer was no good. YOUR ASSISTANT has MY 2000.00 That is not MY problem that is YOUR problem. YOU need to ship MY ATM CARD per our agreement. Be a Man of God and do your fucking job
you are just sending jargon what is is the last number i can see it clearing No record of this transaction can be found. 66274194 you layer what do u want to tell me again this has to stop right now and now i will block you scammer
why are you doing this to me man of GOD THE MTCN IS NOT WORKING IT CAN NOT BE FOUND IN THE SYSTEM
What do you mean NO RECORD CAN BE FOUND? YES IT CAN. YOU HAVE THE PAYMENT SLIP....THE REPORT FROM WHEN YOUR RECEIVER TRIED TO GET THE REFERENCE NUMBER AND FAILED, AND THE REPORT FOR WHEN SHE FINALLY GOT THE CALL RIGHT RECEIVED THE REFERENCE NUMBER AND CLAIMED THE FUNDS I HAVE PROVIDED ALL THREE.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE EXPLAINED TO YOU? THIS IS A MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY TRANSACTION. YOU CAN NOT CHECK THIS TRANSACTION ON LINE BECAUSE IT WAS SENT VIA MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE REFERENCE NUMBER IS FOR THE RECEIVER TO CALL IN AND VERIFY THE TRANSACTION, THEY ARE GIVEN THE REFERENCE NUMBER, THEY THEN GO TO MONEYGRAM WITH THE PAYMENT SLIP AND REFERENCE NUMBER AND COLLECT THE FUNDS. A REPORT IS THEN GENERATED SHOWING THE REFERENCE NUMBER THEY WERE GIVEN AND THE AMOUNT THEY COLLECTED.
THE RECORD IS THE PAYMENT SLIP AND THE REPORT GENERATED BY MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY.
MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY CAN NOT BE VERIFIED ON LINE. THIS IS FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. THAT IS WHY IT COSTS EXTRA.
THE FUNDS WERE SENT VIA MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY FOR SECURITY THE FUNDS WERE SENT VIA MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY FOR SECURITY
THE PROOF OF THE TRANSACTION IS THE PAYMENT SLIP AND THE REPORT GENERATED SHOWING PICK UP.
ANGELA CALLED THE NUMBER, GOT THE CORRECT REFERENCE NUMBER, COLLECTED THE FUNDS, AND SINCE IT CAN NOT BE VERIFIED ON LINE, GAVE YOU A BOGUS REFERENCE NUMBER AND CLAIMS IT WAS BAD. SHE IS THE ONE LYING TO YOU AND STEALING THE PAYMENT.
NOW ENOUGH OF THIS GODDAMNED NONSENSE. DON'T TELL ME YOU CAN NOT VERIFY IT WHEN YOU HAVE A PAYMENT SLIP AND A REPORT/RECEIPT SHOWING THE FUNDS WERE PICKED UP. THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND ANGELA.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS MY ATM CARD NOW THAT THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SENT AND RECEIVED ON YOUR END.
STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE ALREADY TAKE ISSUE WITH ANGELA THE LIAR AND THIEF. SHE HAS MY 2000.00 THAT WAS SENT TO FACILITATE THIS TRANSACTION.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THE PAYMENT SLIP AND THE RECEIPT/REPORT SHOWING IT WAS PICKED UP IS THE PROOF. IT CAN NOT BE CHECKED ON LINE BECAUSE IT IS MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY, WHICH WAS USED BY ME FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO PICKED IT UP AND WHEN IT WAS PICKED UP.
NOW GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND GET MY CARD SHIPPED.
that is why i say you are liar if to say i did not go with her i will say what you are saying is through you and the money gram in your country are fake okay bye dont you ever communicate with me by tomorrow i will take your ATM visa card to the bank that is all i have to tell you
You are no man of God. You are a liar and a coward. A false man of God. How do you think the bank will react when I show them I send and the money was picked up? This will not end well for you coward. No man of God would allow his assistant to steal 2000.00 from a client. You either have a dishonest assistant who has gone rogue or you are complicit. Either way you are a scumbag who is a false man of God
PLEASE I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE ANY MORE (mission accomplished) I TALK THE PAYMENT SLIP TO THE BANK THEY SAY I SHOULD TELL YOU TO ASK THE MONEY GRAM WHERE YOU SEND THE MONEY HERE THEY USED THERE MACHINE TO FINE OUT WHERE THE MONEY WAS PICK THE BANK HERE SAY YOU ARE A FAKE MAN YOU JUST SEND MONEY GRAM SLIP FAKE TRANSFER EVEN THE CONTROL NUMBER DID NOT REFLECT FROM THE SYSTEM IF THE PICK THE MONEY THE BANK HERE WOULD HAVE KNOW SO PLEASE BACK OFF AND DO THE NORMAL TRANSFER WITH THE MTCN FOLLOW WITH THE SLIP IF YOU WANT YOUR ATM VISA CARD WORTH 8000.000USD YOU HAVE TO SEND THAT MONEY DIRECT TO ME WITH THE MTCN NUMBER WITHOUT THAT I WILL NOT RESPONSE YOUR MAIL AS FROM TOMORROW
PEACE BE WITH YOU WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY
The BANK is not MONEYGRAM you FOOL. And this was sent Moneygram SAFE PAY. HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE EXPLAIN TO YOU? Angela has my 2000.00 Moneygram Safe Pay is security system...only the Sender and the Receiver have access. That is so NO ONE ELSE can find the reference number and claim fraudulently. I have send you the Payment Slip, I have send you BOTH reports...the one where Angela failed the automated system, and the one where she did it right was issued THE MTCN AND PICKED UP THE PAYMENT.
THE PAYMENT SLIP HAS THE MONEYGRAM I SEND THE MONEY FROM. IT IS ALL ON THE PAYMENT SLIP THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU.
BIshop EVERYTHING YOU COME BACK AND ASK ME FOR HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED. HOW IN THE HELL DO I BENEFIT FROM HAVING MY MONEY STOLEN? THINK YOU FOOL.
THE MONEY CONTROL NUMBER WILL NOT REFLECT IN THE ON LINE PUBLIC SYSTEM BECAUSE IT WAS SENT MONEYGRAM SECURE PAY. THIS IS FOR SECURITY PURPOSE.
ARE YOU HONESTLY ASKING ME TO SEND MORE MONEY AFTER 2000.00 OF MY MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN STOLEN FROM ME BY THE RECEIVER YOU DESIGNATED? ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID?
YOU REFUSE TO CALL ME TO DISCUSS. YOU KEEP MAKING EXCUSES BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT ANGELA IS A THIEF. OR YOU KNOW SHE IS A THIEF AND YOU ARE COMPLICIT.
EXPLAIN THIS YOU FOOL. I SEND YOU THE DOCUMENT FROM MONEYGRAM SHOWING YOU WHAT REFERENCE NUMBER WAS GIVEN TO ANGELA. AND THAT THE MONEY WAS PICKED UP. ANGELA SEND YOU A DIFFERENT REFERENCE NUMBER AND SAYS THE MONEY WAS NOT PICKED UP. WHO SHOULD YOU BELIEVE? FUCKING MONEYGRAM YOU FOOL.
THEN YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO TELL ME TO SEND YOU ANOTHER PAYMENT? REALLY? WOULD YOU SEND MORE MONEY AFTER YOU HAVE ALREADY SENT 2000.00 SO MORE MONEY CAN BE STOLEN? ARE YOU INSANE?
YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS WITH THIS SHIT! THE ISSUE WITH THE PAYMENT IS NO LONGER BETWEEN YOU AND ME. I SEND THE MONEY TO YOUR RECEIVER AND IT HAS BEEN RECEIVED. YOU AND I NO LONGER HAVE AN OUTSTANDING PAYMENT. YOU NEED TO WORK OUT THE 2000.00 WITH ANGELA
YOU NEED TO SHIP MY CARD. I DID WHAT I WAS DIRECTED TO DO. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER....PLAIN AND SIMPLE
GET IT DONE
PLEASE YOU HAVE TO RESEND IT AGAIN TO WIT THE REFERENCE NUMBER WHY WILL ARE LOOKING FOR THE MONEY YOU SEND BEFORE BY TOMORROW THE BANK AS K ME TO RETURN THE ATM VISA CARD IF THE SHIPMENT FEES IS NOT PAID I TOLD YOU BEFORE WHEN SHE GOT THE MONEY GRAM WITH THE REFERENCE NUMBER IT WILL BAD I TOLD WHILE NOW YOU SEND SHE STOLEN YOUR MONEY
YOU FORBID TO CALL ME THAT IS WHY I SAY YOU LIE YOU DID NOT SEND ANT MONEY WHY CANT YOU CALL ME
WHY ON EARTH WOULD I SEND MORE MONEY WHEN I HAVE ALREADY SEND MONEY AND IT WAS STOLEN? ARE YOU SERIOUS?WHAT DO YOU MEAN I FORBID YOU TO CALL. I SAID I WAS NOT CALLING YOU. I HAVE GIVEN YOU MY PHONE NUMBER AND ASKED YOU SEVERAL TIMES TO CALL ME TO DICUSS THIS MATTER. STOP WITH THESE LIES YOU ARE NO MAN OF GOD MEN OF GOD DON'T LIE
THE BANK IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH YOU WHEN THEY SEE YOU HAVE LET MY PAYMENT BE STOLEN
GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU
INSIDE THE BANK WE HAVE MONEY GRAM FROM THERE THEY LOOK THE TRANSFER SLIP AS FAKE SO PLEASE STOP INSULTING ANGELA
DO YOU THINK YOU ARE PLAYING ME NO WAY THAT GOD HAVE REVEAL EVERYTHING TO ME AS YOU ARE SO SORRY DEAR GO AND DO THE RIGHT THINGS YOUR ATM VISA CARD WILL BE SENT TO YOU FINAL I WILL ONLY REPLY YOUR MAIL WHEN YOU ARE READY TO SEND THE MONEY FOR THE SHIPMENT BY TOMORROW YOU FAIL MY HAND IS UP THE BANK WILL HAVE THE CARD FINAL
I HAVE SENT THE MONEY YOU FOOL. THERE IS NOTHING FAKE ABOUT THE 2000 I SENT THE PAYMENT SLIP OR EITHER OF THE REPORTS SHOWING SHE FAILED TO VALIDATE AND THEN SHE FINALLY VALIDATED. ANGELA HAS 2000.00 OF MY MONEY. YOU TOLD ME TO SEND THE PAYMENT TO ANGELA. I SEND THE PAYMENT TO ANGELA. ANGELA PICKED UP THE PAYMENT. I HAVE PROVIDED PROOF OF THIS. THE BANK IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH YOU WHEN THIS IS ALL REVEALED. YOU ARE A LIAR HARBORING A THIEF. MEANWHILE I HAVE SENT THE PAYMENT CONFIRMED THE PAYMENT HAS BEEN SENT AND RECEIVED WITH YOU AND YOU STILL REFUSE TO SHIP MY CARD. SO GUESS WHAT ASSHOLE....YOU CAN SEND IT BACK TO THE BANK. I WILL CONTACT THE BANK, PROVIDE THE PROOF AND THEY WILL NOT ONLY SHIP MY CARD, THEY WILL DEAL WITH YOU AND ANGELA LEGALLY.
SO AT THIS POINT YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES. DO THE RIGHT THING, THE GODLY THING ,AND SHIP MY CARD OR ENJOY PRISON ASSHOLE
YOU LIE TOO MUCH
WHY THE NUMBER DID NOT WORK HERE IT CANNOT BE FOUND IS FAKE
THIS THE FIRST REFERENCE NUMBER THEY GAVE HER 21148363 SO YOU NA BRING THIS AGAIN 32956089 (our idiot is pulling numbers out of thin air)
I AM NOT LYING AT ALL.
THE NUMBER DID WORK YOU FOOL....ANGELA PICKED UP THE MONEY.
AGAIN YOU CAN NOT LOOK THE NUMBER UP ON LINE....THIS IS FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. I SENT THE MONEY VIA MONEYGRAM SAFEPAY you dumb shit. how many times does this need to be explained to you?
Monegram SAFE PAY is added security for the sender. The Receiver has to CALL IN, VERIFY THE TRANSACTION AND GET THE REFERENCE NUMBER. YOU CAN NOT GET THE REFERENCE NUMBER OR USE THE REFERENCE NUMBER ON LINE. THIS IS FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. AGAIN SECURITY PURPOSE. AGAIN SECURITY PURPOSE. AGAIN THIS WAS SENT USING MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY. THIS WAS FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. HOW MANY DIFFERENT TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE EXPLAIN TO YOU? YOU WERE PROVIDED WITH THE PAYMENT SLIP AND THE REPORT SHOWING THE RECEIVER COMPLETED THE PHONE VERIFICATION AND PICKED UP THE MONEY. THAT IS THE PROOF THAT IS PROVIDED FROM MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY FOR SECURITY PURPOSE. AGAIN MONEY GRAM SAFE PAY. ANGELA HAD TO CALL THE NUMBER SHE WAS GIVEN AND VALIDATE THE TRANSACTION. WHICH SHE FINALLY DID. MONEYGRAM HAS THE RECORDINGS OF THE CALLS AND PROVIDES THE RECEIPTS WHICH I SEND YOU.
I HAVE SENT YOU EVERYTHING.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS SINCE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY TOO STUPID TO THINK OF IT YOURSELF. WHY ON EARTH WOULD ANGELA GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT REFERENCE NUMBER THAN THE REFERENCE NUMBER SHE WAS GIVEN BY MONEYGRAM IF THAT REFERENCE NUMBER WAS NO GOOD? LET ME ASK AGAIN BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE SLOW. ANGELA WAS GIVEN A REFERENCE NUMBER BY MONEYGRAM. SHE GAVE YOU A DIFFERENT REFERENCE NUMBER THAT SHE MADE UP. WHY? WHY DID SHE GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT REFERENCE NUMBER THAN THE ONE ON THE MONEYGRAM REPORT IF THAT ONE WAS FAKE? BECAUSE IT WASNT FAKE YOU STUPID SHIT. SHE GOT THE REFERENCE NUMBER FROM MONEYGRAM PICKED UP THE PAYMENT AND THEN GAVE YOU A DIFFERENT REFERENCE NUMBER AND SAID SHE COULD NOT GET THE MONEY. DO I NEED TO DRAW YOU A PICTURE YOU FUCKING IDIOT?
more unintelligible gibberish from our idiot SO ARE YOU TELLING ME IF SOME ONE ONE THE REFERENCE NUMBER THAT IS NOT GOOD THAT MEAN SHE PICK THE MONEY IN MY EYE SO TELL ME
I am telling you , that the payment slip and reference number from MONEYGRAM WAS GOOD. That is why she needed to make up a different reference number to give you after she stole my money.
I told you at the beginning of all this I was sending it Moneygram Safe Pay. YOU DID NOT OBJECT. Moneygram Safe Pay costs more for better security. ONLY THE RECEIVER CAN GET THE REFERENCE NUMBER. I sent the money, I sent the payment slip, Angela called and did not pass validation the first time because of her stupidity. When she called back THE TRANSACTION WAS VALIDATED AND SHE WAS GIVEN THE REFERENCE NUMBER. She then picked up the Payment. She then MADE UP A DIFFERENT REFERENCE NUMBER SO THAT SHE COULD LIE TO YOU AND TELL YOU THE REFERENCE NUMBER WAS NO GOOD AND SHE COULD NOT PICK UP THE MONEY. I GAVE YOU BOTH THE PAYMENT SLIP FROM MONEYGRAM AND THE VALIDATION REPORT FROM MONEYGRAM proving this. She validated, received the money, MADE UP A BOGUS REFERENCE NUMBER and gave you that reference number (lied to you) and said the transfer was no good. YOU CAN NOT VERIFY THE TRANSACTION ON LINE THIS IS MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY. IT HAS TO BE DONE VIA PHONE
I gave you DOCUMENTATION from Moneygram...she gave you a bogus reference number.
SHE STOLE THE MONEY AND IS LYING TO YOU WITH A BOGUS REFERENCE NUMBER. MEANWHILE I AM OUT 2000.00 YOU HAVE NOT YET SHIPPED MY CARD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LIAR AND A THIEF WORKING FOR YOU. FIX IT.
Because if you send the card back to the bank, and I provide the bank all the documentation showing the payment was sent, and received...charges will be filed against you and Angela. So you need to get your house in order.
OKAY RESEND THE PAYMENT SLIP AGAIN LET ME SEE WITH THE REFERENCE NUMBER
THE PAYMENT SLIP DOES NOT HAVE THE REFERENCE NUMBER YOU IDIOT. IT HAS THE NUMBER THE RECEIVER MUST CALL TO VERIFY THE TRANSACTION AND THEY ARE THEN GIVEN THE REFERENCE NUMBER. I HAVE PROVIDED BOTH THE PAYMENT SLIP AND REPORT OF TRANSACTION SHOWING VALIDATION WAS PASSED REFERENCE NUMBER WAS ISSUED AND PAYMENT WAS PICKED UP. YOU HAVE MULTIPLE COPIES OF BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SENT TO YOU.
is where you send the money they stolen it not Angela okay
YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT. SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD HAVE STOLEN IT. SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE REFERENCE NUMBER (THAT IS HOW MONEYGRAM SAFE PAY WORKS). I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THE REFERENCE NUMBER SHE GIVES YOU IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REFERENCE NUMBER MONEYGRAM GAVE HER. SHE IS THE ONE LYING TO YOU. I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION FROM MONEYGRAM. YOU ARE HARBORING A LIAR AND A THIEF MAKE IT RIGHT
you send me the reference number let me see
Bishop... FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY YOU HAVE HAD THIS INFORMATION SINCE THURSDAY. WHY DO YOU KEEP ASKING ME TO RESEND YOU THINGS I HAVE SEND YOU NUMEROUS TIMES? GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
Here is where we are
Angela has received the 2000 payment that is supposed to be for my ATM card. Angela has lied to you, given you a bogus reference number and says she didn't. I have provided proof in the form of a moneygram safepay payment slip AND a moneygram safepay transaction record.
You have one of two choices. You can ship my card as agreed and deal with Angela yourself
OR
You can return my card to the bank who I will contact with PROOF that I made the payment and the payment has been received and they will ship me my card and get the local authorities involved.
You have no leg to stand on here. SO what is it going to be?
I would suggest YOU simply ship my card and deal with Angela in house. I give you my word that if you do that, I will not contact the legal authorities.
peace of the lord be with you i want to tell you nobody from the airport who will carry good without shipment fees i have told you already that by tomorrow if the payment is not done i will take your ATM visa card back to the bank final
You are not listening. I can not get through to your hard head.
Angela has stolen my payment.
You can pay the fee out of your pocket to make this right, and deal with Angela in house. OR You can play dumb, return the card to the Bank and I will deal with the bank directly. I have the proof the payment has been sent to and received by Angela they will ship my card and get the authorities involved
So YOU have a choice to make>
The fee has been sent to and received by the person you told me to send it to. I have the proof. Angela is lying to you and stealing from us. (you) I have sent the money and have proof of same. This is YOUR problem to fix So you can do what's right, and ship my card...and deal with Angela OR You can believe Angela despite all the evidence that she received the money which proves you are not only a fool but a stupid fool.
THE PAYMENT HAS BEEN MADE AND STOLEN BY YOUR ASSOCIATE FIX IT So you wont call me, you won't accept my hangouts request. Wonder why that is. Are you a thief like Angela and just got caught with safepay?
So I need to know your decision. How are you going to proceed. it is 325 am your time so while I know you are not awake right now...you will wake up to this message. I am getting ready to call it a night. So since it is Monday for you...what have you decided? Are you going to do the right thing and ship my card...and then deal wiith Angela
OR
Are you going to dig in and return the card to the bank?
While I wish you woud handle Angela in house and ship my card...i look forward to you returning it to the bank. they will do the right thing once i provide all the evidence that the payment was sent and picked up.
so what have you decided? will you be shipping the card and dealing with the theft of my payment in house? Or are you going to return the card to the bank which will get the legal authorities involved?
A true man of God would ship the card and deal with Angela after. Are you a true man of God?
Because no true man of God would NEVER allow 2000.00 to be stolen from another human being
if i did not confirm the payment this morning i will return the ATM visa card back to the bank right now this the email of the bank ubaubagroup@outlook.fr
So you are going to allow Angela to steal my 2000.00? Payment has been confirmed! It has been confirmed since last week Thursday. You have been provided the details FROM MONEYGRAM several times now showing that Angela has picked up the payment. You are either too lazy or too stupid to understand what is going on here.
So just to be clear....in the interest of documenting this for legal ramification
You are choosing to ignore the official documentation from Moneygram that proves confirmation of payment? Is this correct? You are allowing Angela to lie to you and steal this payment?
You are being given one last opportunity to do the right thing here before I turn this over to my attorney.
Lenny
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 27, 2020 12:31:54 GMT
So here we are. need to give my next step some thought. Couple different ways I can take it. Thinking about turning all this over to my attorney who will contact the bank of course my attorney will be "in the game" and will have a proposal to steal a bunch of lenny's money
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 27, 2020 14:21:34 GMT
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 27, 2020 15:49:24 GMT
Decided to give our idiot a quick poke. I am really hoping that there is still some serious doubt between our idiot and our idiot's receiver as to the validity of the payment Bishop For absolute clarity I want you to confirm what course of action you are taking in order to complete our business together. Lenny
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 27, 2020 23:22:48 GMT
Well our idiot has been silent as expected for the duration of the day. So naive JW decides to reach out one last time and appeal to the idiot's conscience (yeah right ).... Bishop, Your silence today troubles me. I am going to assume that you are OK with Angela stealing my money and as such have returned the card to the bank on a bed of lies? That is disappointing. I thought you were a man of God and as such were going to do the right thing here. Instead you are complicit in the theft of 2000.00 of my money. I have turned this all over to an attorney that I have worked with in the past. He is an international practitioner and is licensed in Burkina Faso, Benin Republic and Nigeria. In fact he represented me in a Nigerian Oil transaction some years ago. That ended up being very costly and we ultimately lost that case but this one is a slam dunk. I have the payment slip, both transaction records from Angela's calls, PROOF that she received and stole my 2000.00.
I will be having a meeting with my attorney and his staff tomorrow. You have until close of business tomorrow to be a stand up guy and do the right thing. Think on it. Pray on it. And then hold Angela accountable for her lies and thievery. OR you will feel the wrath of my attorney.
Len
Planting the seed that my lawyer might be crooked with the nigerian oil deal and losing the case
So tomorrow afternoon if the idiot does not reply both he and the bank will get an email from my "attorney" with me CCd notifying them that I am now represented by counsel and they are to cease direct communication with me and run all future correspondence through him.
They will also both get an email from my same attorney wanting in on the scam. My attorney will convince them that he has access to my estate, I am a very wealthy man, (and a little senile) and he just loves it when my dumbass falls for these scams because he gets to drain just a little bit more from my bank account.
If anybody has a lawyer character and wants to have a little fun I am all about it. Hit me up. Otherwise I will introduce another character to our story and see if I can prolong this just a bit longer.
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 28, 2020 15:01:19 GMT
Nothing from our Bishop. A one line poke is all he gets today. "You will be hearing from my attorney-thief" Hopefully I created enough doubt that he and Angela are feuding. Of course that all goes away if they actually call or visit Moneygram and learn safe bay is bullshit but we shall see. Well I honestly did not expect a response. But I got one. time for a big slap and then silence from my character From our idiot he quoted my character and then gave me this I DID NOT SEE YOUR MONEY OKAY PLEASE SEND IT DIRECT TO ME I WILL SEND YOUR CARD >>>> You have been provided the details *FROM MONEYGRAM* several times now
time for a slap or six
So you LIED to me AGAIN? YOU Still have my card? I thought it was returned to the bank yesterday? More lies from a false man of God?
OF COURSE YOU DID NOT SEE MY MONEY. ANGELA FUCKING CLAIMED IT, GAVE YOU A BOGUS REFERENCE NUMBER SO YOU WOULD THINK THE TRANSFER DID NOT HAPPEN AND STOLE MY 2000.00. SO OF COURSE YOU DID NOT SEE IT. YOU DID HOWEVER SEE THE FUCKING PAYMENT SLIP, AND THE FUCKING RECEIPT FROM MONEYGRAM SHOWING ANGELA PICKED UP THE MONEY WITH THE CORRECT REFERENCE NUMBER.
so now you expect me to send "Bishop Philip" more money? I am already out 2000.00 you promised my card would be shipped right away i need that money to live on. why would i send more money ?
YOU REFUSE to call me to discuss. YOU REFUSE to accept my hang outs invitation to discuss.
so enough of this nonsense. return my fucking card to the bank already. what part of you will be hearing from my attorney do you not understand?
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 29, 2020 19:31:03 GMT
Ok so we are going to try. Have not had a whole bunch of luck with this modality in the past so I tweak it every time I try it. Maybe I will get lucky this time.
An attorney has been hired ..
Mr B,
Per our discussion here is all of the Moneygram Safepay Documentation showing the payment was made and subsequently picked up. I have forwarded your secretary all of the email correspondence.
As I understand it, the Bishop has falsely reported that the payment was not received and has returned my card to the bank.
Bishop Phillip's email address is bixxxxxxxx44@gmail.com and the bank's contact is ubaxxxxxup@outlook.fr. I don't remember the bishop giving me any name point of contact.
As usual use this email as authorization to commence your work and bill/process any invoices to my estate for your services.
Lenny
And of course the attorney is all to willing to take the case....
Gentlemen,
Please be advised that Mr Wilson has retained our office to represent him in this matter. Pursuant to the canon of international law, the laws of the United States of America, the laws of Burkina Faso and international legal ethics you are hereby directed to cease direct communication with Mr Wilkerson and any communication and direct any future communication to this office. Once this office reviews the matter, we will be in touch with you to schedule a conference to discuss this matter further.
Sincerely, -- P B Esq. Independent International Legal Practitioner New York***Los Angeles***Chicago*** London***Aberdeen***Paris South Africa***Nigeria***Benin Republic***Burkina Faso Ghana***Morocco***Egypt***Brazil
And from Mr B's personal account to our idiots
Listen up
You and I both know what this is AND we have similar interests in this regard. Wilkerson is a long time client of mine, he is a senile old fool who has deep pockets and we both stand to make a lot of money off of this "legal issue". I have power of attorney over his financials and if we work together here we both stand to make a lot of money. Wilkerson trusts and listens to me always.
Before I say much more need to know you understand what I am saying and open to working together.
PB
Now we wait
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Post by Frazzle on Apr 30, 2020 16:11:34 GMT
So far we have heard nothing from our idiots on either the lawyers "professional" or "personal" email.
Going to give it another day and then this is what I am thinking. I am open to advice/criticism as I have had little to no success with this modality to date. but we do keep trying different things.
Tomorrow the lawyer from his personal account will send something to the effect of...
"Maybe I am not making myself clear. the $2000.00 you have already gotten from Wilson is just the tip of the iceberg. I will make thousands of dollars in legal fees off of this. I am offering you a part of it.....For example here in a couple of days I am going to invoice him for three hours of time AND the services of a local investigator. I will make some nice coin without you until I ultimately run into a dead end and "lose the case" As I said he is senile and trusts me 100%. Or WE can make some nice coin together. You will run your scam, I will of course have to review all correspondence you send and advise him....which means $$$ and then of course the other fees that arise...
Well you know the game. I have a like minded banker that helps by moving the payments around so as not to raise any suspicion on this end. I have a good thing going here.
Oh and I forgot to tell you the best part. I do pro bono work at the senior center here at Wilsons community. These rich old mumus bring me all sorts of these emails to review and advise on. Most of them have deep pockets and have alienated their families so they have no one but me and each other to discuss things with. It is a literal goldmine.
So how do you want to play? We can do this together and make bank...or I will bleed Wilson for a few grand before discovering and telling him this is a scam and he needs to move on. Maybe the next hustler will be smart enough to take my advise.
Whats it going to be?
I am open to any and all suggestions
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Post by Frazzle on May 4, 2020 16:00:20 GMT
Well our scammers have been completely quiet. This one might be over. But I am going to try something i have never tried before...maybe, maybe not.
From the lawyer through official channels (our idiots CC'd)
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Post by Frazzle on May 6, 2020 21:05:03 GMT
Figured we would wait a couple of days and then hit the bishop only from the crooked attorney's personal email account. See if this gets a rise from him....
The only "player" we know is real is the receiver of the funds. This *might* concern him enough to at least engage my character and hear him out.
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Post by Frazzle on May 8, 2020 20:48:39 GMT
Still no reply from these idiots. The attorney's office gave a weekly updated via offficial channels....
Unoficially the lawyer will poke the idiot again this weekend.
Although we may be opening a new chapter with Bishop Idiot. Enter Brother Oliv@r....if this takes off I will make a new post....
Not shockingly Brother Oliver received a reply from Bishop idiot....excuse me Reverend Bishop Idiot
Oliver like many of my characters is quick to slap an idiot if needed
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Post by Frazzle on May 9, 2020 2:53:02 GMT
Our idiot responds to Oliver
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Post by Frazzle on May 9, 2020 13:24:44 GMT
He is hard headed
Brother Oliv@r tries to make him understand
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Post by Frazzle on May 12, 2020 18:46:12 GMT
Well our idiot ignored brother Ol@ver....so we will let that die.
But he is also ignoring the attorney....so lets take another stab there.
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Post by Frazzle on May 12, 2020 20:44:21 GMT
OK so that got a reply.
Who can help me translate what I want to say to the idiot into scammer speak?
Something to the effect of
I know what this is. Wilkerson has more money we can scam him together. You already steal 2000 from him. This is just the beginning. He always brings these to me. You can play ball and we can make money together or I will tell him you are 419 and wait for the next boy who might be smarter than you.
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Post by Birlic on May 13, 2020 7:08:20 GMT
Well, a text variant can be this:
Am sabi what dis na bi na becuse wilkerson has more moni na wi can job am togedda ok ? Yu already chop 2000 fo him na dis na bi juss di beginnin becus he always brings these fo mi . Yu can play ball na wi can mek moni togedda or am go tel him yu dey 419 na wait fo di nex yahoboi wey might bi smarter than yu .
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Post by Frazzle on May 13, 2020 12:25:47 GMT
Sent. thanks Birlic
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