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Post by tazmanian on Nov 21, 2021 4:37:37 GMT
Imagine you are a judge, with any type of punishment within your remit. Before you stands three scammers, each found guilty by irrefutable evidence.
Scammer 1 is a teenager and a yahoo boy who was inheritance scamming for less than a year, for small amounts. He claims he was coerced into doing so by a relative who has told him since he was a child that he would have to do it.
Scammer 2 is a middle-aged person who has been lottery scamming for about ten years. He could have worked as a taxi driver but the money would be lower. He claims he scams because there are not enough opportunities for work or education in his city.
Scammer 3 is a successful romance scammer who recently stole the life savings of a victim who committed suicide after the theft. Scammer 3 is in his twenties and is skilled with computers and networking. This scammer claims to have remorse.
Their punishment is in your hands.
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Post by Linoline on Nov 21, 2021 10:45:51 GMT
It's food for thought, but I am glad that I am not a judge
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Post by Gerald Croft on Nov 21, 2021 11:27:47 GMT
Thankfully, in reality a judge would not have the ability to give any form of punishment they wanted. My own intuitions would tell me that scammer 1 should be given a relatively lenient punishment but still enough to deter him from scamming again. If I believed him that he was coerced then I might consider letting him go free in return for providing evidence on the relative who seems to be running the scam operation. And if possible he would have to return all of his victims' money. Scammers 2 and 3 should probably both get a prison sentence, but scammer 3 should get longer because of the aggravating factors of stealing larger sums of money and using the romance scam format. I don't believe he can be held legally responsible for the suicide unless he had reason to expect that his victim would do this. His remorse would make no difference to me. That said, if I really were a judge then I would have to follow the guidelines given to me by the law and I would try to be as impartial as possible.
In my opinion, scambaiting is not about bringing justice to scammers; to me, it is more about engineering circumstances so that a scammer's attempts to scam a victim turn out to harm nobody but the scammer himself. For this reason, my different responses to how the scammers should be punished do not mean that I would want to persuade the scammers to do different things when baiting them. I would be just as satisfied with any of them being sent on safari, for example.
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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2021 16:41:05 GMT
I concur with Gerald Croft for the most part. I would follow the law and be as tough as possible within the discretion I had ... up to a point.
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Post by Pricky on Nov 27, 2021 1:25:41 GMT
The cat or the birch, if the machine was available.
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Post by bluelady on Dec 10, 2021 13:43:57 GMT
Hmmmmm,I will talk now about Romance scammers,the most dangerous scammers....Unfortunately, I can't post here ,what I would do to them....something very bad!😈😈😈
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Post by Yastreb on Dec 10, 2021 22:32:58 GMT
I've threatened Lads with various dire punishments over the years. I'll leave out the details, but I can say that they involved (variously) ground glass, an electric sander, high octane petrol, table salt, or a K-Bar. The M-4 Masterkey or the Remington 870 would be way too quick.
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Post by chuckbutt on Jan 2, 2022 21:35:38 GMT
1. 7 years of prison with no right to change the punishment (4+3 etc), confiscation of whole property, restriction on working in state positions for rest of life, restriction on using inter Et technologies for rest of life. 2. Life inprisonment with no right to change the punishment (20 years then appelation etc), confiscation of whole property. 3. Death penalty in front of his relatives.
Everyone deserves fairness
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