"Please do come to insult me" Mr Victor wants my ID

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CertainHuman
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"Please do come to insult me" Mr Victor wants my ID Oct 27, 2022 21:06:29 GMT Birlic, Linoline, and 3 more like this

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Post by CertainHuman on Oct 27, 2022 21:06:29 GMT

A nice little bait I completed a while ago. The ending is quite amusing, but the journey was very frustrating (for the scammer). Mr Victor was determined to get Alans ID. Poor old Alan tried his very best to cooperate with the idiot. For some reason, Alan's efforts just seemed to upset our dear scammer. Strange...

Mr Victor - Scammer
Alan - Me

I have cut out the first few templated emails. Very standard "next of kin" scam setup.

Before we proceed, I need to ask a question

He ignored my question

lndicate your interest in this transaction by sending to me your bank account details even without any money in the account for us to state the transfer processes of the money to your bank account together a copy of your work lD or drivers license ,
Send to me these information below here ,

Bank Name
Bank Address
Account Name
Account Number
Swift Code
Iban :
Email Address
Full Name ;
Home Address ;
Private phone number ;
copy of your passport or drivers liecense :

Send your full account details as it is stated above to use it in applying to the bank for the release of the funds .
waiting to hear from you and God bless ,

You want my bank details? Isn’t it illegal for you to ask that? I'm sorry, but this is very confusing

l can not apply to the release of the money to you without your bank account , this is why i said even without any money in the account for us to state the transfer processes of the money to your bank account .
You can as well open a new bank account to where the money will be transferred to you .
waiting to hear from you and God bless ,

I'm very confused. Are you saying its impossible for me to receive the money without providing this information? Are you asking me to break the law? I don’t understand why you can’t just send me a cheque.
Please, let us just proceed with the next level of the process

You are not breaking any law but the only thing here is that you are inheriting what is left behind for nobody , you can receive the money with a draft cheque, bank transfer and ATM card but still i will need your full informations as ststed below ,

Full Name ;
Home Address ;
Private phone number ;
occupation ,
copy of your passport or drivers liecense :

As i receive these informations above i will use it to process the draft cheque, bank transfer and ATM card on your name and behalf .
Send your full informations as it is stated above to use it in applying to the bank for the release of the funds .
waiting to hear from you and God bless ,

I left him for a few days. I maybe kind of forgot about him... oops

Why the silence from you

Sorry for the delay, I went on a business trip and had no access to my mailbox. I was just wondering why you are requesting my details. Before I share anything, please share your details. I see this as a trust building exercise

I will require your information to apply to the bank on the release of the funds to you since you have indicated interest in this transaction.
Attached here is my passport, then again you can call me on my direct phone number +22REDACTED for a heart to heart discussion regarding the best way to handle this transaction.
Waiting to hear from you.

*He attached a rather convincing passport

Thank you for sending me this information. I tried to reach you via phone call to discuss the business, but I wasn’t able to reach you. Please, maybe you can call me instead. My number is +44 LENNY
I think this is the best way for me to understand this.

Will the scammer phone Lenny? Will Alan send any of his details? Spoiler alert: The short answer is no, and the long answer is coming soon... I will post more tomorrow.

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Fuck you ashole and get out from my box idiot (Mr Logan)
Please do come to insult me do you hear me well, just don't try to mess with my head (Mr Victor)
You can not use the whole day to purchase a card. (Patrick)

stellabella Moderator FAIRY GODMOTHER Posts: 1,051	"Please do come to insult me" Mr Victor wants my ID Oct 28, 2022 11:35:29 GMT bluelady and CertainHuman like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by stellabella on Oct 28, 2022 11:35:29 GMT Nice to have you back and posting your baits CH. Looking forward to reading more tomorrow!

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"Please do come to insult me" Mr Victor wants my ID Oct 28, 2022 21:44:57 GMT stellabella and geeman like this

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stellabella Thank you

Part 2

Instead of phoning Lenny, Mr Victor sends Alan some inspirational speech. Nice.

I will want you to know i can not apply to the release of the money to you without your informations.
You can even send an empty bank account without any money in the account for us to state the transfer processes of the money to your bank account.
Also you can as well open a new bank account to where the money will be transferred to you .
The reason why I want to transfer the money to you is because this money can not be released to any person locally here if not a foreigner who can stand as the beneficiary to the funds since the funds has no beneficiary to it . I only need you to trust and believe in me for I can't do anything to hurt or disappoint you in this business.
I know it is not going to be easy for you to understand me but this business I brought to you is what our unborn children will benefit from the venture from generation to generation, so hear me out for you will never in life regret your help to me in this business.
You can still call me back on my direct phone number +22REDACTED for a heart to heart discussion regarding the best way to handle this transaction.
Waiting to hear from you and God bless

I try one last time to get him to phone Lenny.

I barely understood your email. Please, i need you to call me so I can understand 100% what your instructions are. Thank you

I tried calling you but couldn't get through due to poor network here, be informed this business i brought to you is what our unborn children will benefit from the venture from generation to generation.
You should hear me out for you will never in life regret your help to me in this business.
I will appreciate it if you will send your informations as stated below so I will use it to process the transfer of the money to you.

Full Name ;
Home Address ;
Private phone number ;
occupation ,
copy of your drivers liecense :

Call me on my phone number +2250504842151 for a heart to heart discussion
Waiting to hear from you and God bless ,

The network is bad here as well. I guess we won’t be communicating that way.

My full name: Alan
My address: REDACTED
You already have my phone number
My Occupation: I am retired
I don’t have a driver's license or passport or anything.

Please inform me on the next stage of the process

This is what i have sent to the bank on your behalf and once the bank receives it they will contacts you , as you receive any email from the bank open communication with them to the transfer release processes .
The bank will request for your for identification, so send to the bank copy of your lD card for the bank identification once you are contacted by the bank.
This is funds release application below .
waiting to hear from you

He then shows me the email he apparently sends to the "bank"

Dear Sir,
Reference to the above stated Account No. 202-15689-1 of the late Mr Keith, with a credit balance of $160million Point Zero - Zero U.S. Dollars Only. I have been advised by counsel that I am the designated beneficiary to the above referenced, dormant account, held by the late Mr Keith As such, we wish to apply for the release of the total said amount in our favor, representing the first phase payment from the credit balance in the said account. In accordance with the National and International Laws of Inheritance,

Full name: Alan
Address: REDACTED
Telephone : +44 LENNY
Occupation. : Retired
Email : REDACTED

This request is predicated on the fact that since the death of Mr Keith, who was entrusted with REDACTED
The need for the transfer of the money in the account becomes imperative.
We shall therefore be very grateful if this request meets with your favorable!
Thank you for reviewing the letter of much importance.

Sincerely,
Alan

My reply to his email. I don't think I ever got an email from the bank...

Okay, when I get a message from the bank, I'll email you. Got it. I just have one question I need to ask you if that's okay?

Yes you can go ahead to ask your question.
waiting to hear from you

I made him wait a few more days after this. Now I begin to frustrate him with an endless stream of pointless questions.

Who is Keith

Keith is the owner of the money who died in an auto car accident with his family without any hier to the funds, am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be approved to any local person here, but to a foreigner who has information about Keith Lathan bank account, which I shall give to you upon your positive response.
I am revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let me down in this business.
I guarantee you that this transaction will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law.
Waiting to hear from you,

But why exactly choose me? I have no idea who Keith is and never heard of him. I know I’m asking a lot of questions but I’m very confused. Honestly, It would really help if you called me and told me the details directly.

You don't need to be afraid or worry about anything because too many questions might sink a ship but i assure you that this transaction will be handled legitimately without any trouble, I have the whole informations to late Keith account and with the help of our insider in the bank everything will go well.
Our insider in the bank will destroy all documents of the transaction immediately you receive this money leaving no trace to any place. i will use my position to obtain all legal approvals for onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments.
Waiting to hear from you,

Who is the insider in the bank? What's his name?

The name to our insider in the bank is David, i really want to know more of you and i will want you to keep this transaction very confidential at all times never disclose it to anybody and also to be maintaining constant communications with me knowing that this business should take precedence over any other business for the mean time.

But how can we trust David? Have you met him before. Can I see his ID? A passport, maybe?

You have noting to worry for our insider in the bank David can be trusted 100% he will never let us down and he is so much involved with us in this business, the only problem is knowing if you can be capable of handling this money once it is transferred to you.
Again, I need you to tell me about your self and what kind of business we can invest the money in UK, then also bear in mind that as the bank contacts you they will request for an identification from you as the beneficiary to the funds going into your bank account.
Hoping to hear from you,

It’s just you haven’t mentioned if you two worked together before. Have you done this before? I’m sure you trust him, but I need to know if I can trust him. Please ask him to scan a copy of his ID and send it to me. I think this is a perfectly reasonable request.

I told you not to worry about our insider in the bank , yes I know him and trust him 100% for we have worked together in the past, I have never done business before but with the help of our insider in the bank everything will go well just trust in me and you will never regret your help to me in this business.
You are not answering my own questions to you and why? Tell me about yourself and age, also should i believe you will not disappoint me once you receive this money to your bank account.
Try to get your ID for the bank identification because the bank must request your ID, go get your driver's license, passport or any sort of your ID to avoid delaying the bank processing the transfer of the funds.
Hoping to hear from you,

You're telling me to show my ID, and I want to see the insiders ID. I don’t understand how we can proceed without it. You keep ignoring that part of my emails. I will answer any questions you have AFTER I have seen his ID. This is a simple request which a grown man should be able to complete easily, assuming you are a grown man.

His frustration is slowly rising...

Yes, i want to see your ID for i know it is not a bad idea, we are trying to know each other knowing that this is a huge amount of money going into your bank account, you have noting to do with our insider identification for I will not disclose our bank insider , you have to let me know your serious and ready to comply on my instructions to you, prove to me i can trust you in this transaction by sending your ID and telling me about your self because it seems your avoiding my questions to you.

I pretended to comply a little and sent him a blurry and useless passport photo.

Well, here is my ID. This is an old scan, and I don’t have a printer, so I won’t be making any more copies. Personally, I think it’s ridiculous that you won’t share the ID of a potential future business partner. How can I possibly trust him if I don’t know him. Finally, don’t you dare say I’m not serious! I have been nothing but cooperative during this process. You, however, have not met even one of my requests. You should take back your accusations. I think they apply to you more than me.
Now, if you are prepared to be serious, it’s not complicated to provide me with the insiders ID. I don’t think we will continue with money and fees until we sort this out.

Mr Victor isn't happy with Alan

I sent you my ID to prove am genuine and sincere in this transaction but how can you send an ID such as this here, what we are talking about it is a huge amount of money going into your bank account.
I will have to be sincere to you if you can not send a clear genuine ID of yours and telling me about yourself then I will look for another serious person who knows what he wants in life then again you have no business with the bank insider and I will never disclose him to you.

A few days later I sent this just to annoy him

Hello? Why are you not responding to me

Am not responding because I feel your not serious in handling this transaction since you can not be able to send your ID and telling me about your self.

I sent the unusable passport photo again

I don’t understand. I sent a clear picture of my ID. I’m not sure why you keep bringing it up. Do you need me to send it again?
Also, if you want to know more about me, what do you want to know? Ask me some questions about things you want to know about me.
I am serious about this business, but you seem to be pointlessly delaying. Not responding to me and sulking doesn’t help and is the sort of thing I would expect from a child. Please, ask me some questions and let's finish this deal once and for all.

You are the one acting as a child in this transaction because this is a huge amount of money going into your bank account but you can not provide your ID,
Listen to me, if your serious in doing this business with me then you should look for where to scan your passport, work ID or driver's license to me,
After the transfer of the money to your bank account then i and our insider in the bank will travel to meet you for the sharing of the money while i will want to invest my own share of the money in a good business of your choice.

You know a scammer is getting frustrated when he types out the "Listen to me".

My friend let's just take a moment and calm down. The only reason I have not provided another copy of my ID is because I don’t have easy access to a scanner. I doubt my local library would permit scans of ID’s, and I have no friends who own one. I’m not sure how else to demonstrate my seriousness, but I can assure you I would’ve given up on your business ages ago if I wasn’t serious.
Please, let's work as men to get this deal done. I think it’ll be for the best to forget the issue of the ID because it might take me days or weeks to get access to a working scanner. Besides, I already sent you an old copy. I’m sure that will be accepted.
I think it’s in our interest to move to the next stage and complete this business sooner rather than later. I’m very serious and keen to partner with you, my friend. Thank you

I wonder how long it took him to write this out?

I got your email and listen to me it never took me days or weeks to send to you my ID but only one hours or less, so why can't you do the same because i can't proceed in this transaction with you if you don't send to me your correct ID., also let me inform you that the bank will also request for it then will you tell them you have no ID when they are about to process transfer a huge amount of money going into your bank account,look this is no reason so you go scan your ID wherever for I don't see anything difficult in doing but your only refusing to send.
Don't think am being hard on you but this part of my policy in this transaction because your not proving to me your capable of handling the money once transferred to you, your reason not providing yoyr ID is not a genuine reason, this is why you have to go scan your correct ID through a scanner even if it will take you days or weeks, we have to be transperent to each in this transaction because this is a huge amount of money we are talking about it.
You have to prove to me your serious in doing this transaction by sending to me your correct ID, also as I receive it from you then i will attach it to the application letter I will be sending to the bank on your behalf to the release of the funds to you as the beneficiary to the funds, I am assuring you that this transaction will be done legitimately without any trouble.
Bear in mind that you have fill the bank transfer form and signing it, you will print out the transfer form then fill out the questions in it and scan the completed form returning it to the bank through the bank email address, so you seen that you require the use of scanner because you will do a lot with scanner.
Your the person holding back this transaction to proceed, so first of all you go scan your correct ID to me then we can proceed.

I try to move the conversation along. This may have been a mistake in hindsight as he started to get suspicious after this

My good friend, I assume it only took you a short amount of time to send your ID because you had easy access to a scanner. I do not. As I said, it could take me weeks for me to figure out how to do this. If you have any suggestions on where I can go to scan my ID, let me know soonest.
I understand we cannot complete this business without the ID, but maybe we can complete some other tasks while we wait. You mention documents to fill out and fees to pay. Maybe we can sort all that out and then move to the issue of the ID. I would be happy to complete these tasks with you, my friend.
But, if you insist that the ID must be sent before all that, then I guess I won’t be signing any document or paying fees or anything to continue this business. I really want to send you my IS, but I also want to be productive. Doing nothing to further our business while I wait for a way to scan my ID is not productive. What do you think?

Who talked about paying money or fees? Because for me I never remember mentioning such to you about paying fees or money.
Please sorry for the inconveniences I don't think I can proceed in doing this business any longer with you.
Have a nice day,

Okay, I’ll find someone else to do business with. Your loss. Goodbye

Am not losing anything for the funds are here in the bank and I have the account information, all am saying is your not being sincere to me because your refusing sending your ID.
If your ID i requested is the reason i can't proceed further with you in this business then I have noting to regret.
Let us save ourselves the stress and troubles because you have no good intentions for me in this business,

Well, now you just sound stupid. I never refused to send you anything. If you recall, i already sent you a copy of my ID. Then you just delayed and complained that it was not clear enough for you. Admittedly, it is quite an old photo.
I have attached the same photo of my ID as before. It’s perfectly clear for me to read. If you can't view it, it’s probably your fault and you’ll need to purchase a new computer.
I don’t know what else you want me to do. If you want to wait for weeks until I’m able to figure out how to acquire access to a scanner, then be my guest. However, I think we both want to just get this business done. It’s your choice.

Mr Victor starts to lose it at this point. So many good quotes here

Please do come to insult me do you hear me well, just don't try to mess with my head, you take a look at what you sent you call lD, does it look like lD? I can't even see the face of the person or names with other information, it is not even clear for someone to identify it as an ID
So don't say you sent an ID to me because what you sent is not clear at all, this is why I said you should go resend a clear copy of your ID and a recent one but your here arguing with me for just a simple task.
Don't worry i will wait for even a year to get your recent copy of your ID scanned to me, I don't need an old ID but recent ID.

A few days later...

What's happening now sir?

It seems you don't know i have principles in life, i have told you that i need to see your ID and if you are not ready to send your ID to me then am sorry i can't proceed with you in this business.
By the way you talked about paying fees and what do you mean? Because i know i never told you of paying any fees and truly they is no fees to pay then how did you come across paying fees.
I need you to answer me these questions with every truth because your truly not clear to me because it seems your hiding identity and I want to know why?

So, is this business cancelled? I am interested in doing something

But the scammer never responded to this email. Maybe I'll wait a year and send him my ID and see what he says. (rolling)

Hopefully my future baits last a little longer.
I do have a few more scammers corresponding with Alan at this time. I do hope to post these when they develop into something interesting and worthy of sharing. Thank you

Last Edit: Oct 28, 2022 21:50:37 GMT by CertainHuman

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stellabella Moderator FAIRY GODMOTHER Posts: 1,051	"Please do come to insult me" Mr Victor wants my ID Oct 29, 2022 5:21:49 GMT CertainHuman likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by stellabella on Oct 29, 2022 5:21:49 GMT Mr Victor's attitude = Point Zero - Zero Alan's persistance = 160million out of 10 Good one CH!

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