"By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything"

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"By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything" Aug 16, 2023 5:57:39 GMT rob419 likes this

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Post by Yastreb on Aug 16, 2023 5:57:39 GMT

It's neat when a scammer gives you something you can quote against him.

The scammer's name has been changed; his emails are date-stamped. My comments are in bold.

14 August 2023

Attn : Malcolm Reynolds ,
Hello, I am Peter Scott, a broker. I have a prospective investor. He is a politician and he would appreciate your help to invest some funds in any profitable business. And he wants to remain anonymous in the investment process for the purpose of confidentiality. If you are interested kindly write back, I will be looking forward to your quick response for more details.
Regards,
Peter

I forgo my usual response this time.

Mr Scott
I'm puzzled about why you would need my help. Please explain that.
Regards
Malcolm Reynolds

But the answer isn't encouraging...

14 August

[Blank email!]

Mr Scott
That's not very helpful.
Malcolm Reynolds

But he's back, as if nothing had happened... eager, but cagey!

15 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds ,
Thanks for your email response, as the broker in this transaction I want to be honest and transparent with you as far as I can be on this transaction. And we can have a good understanding of how best we can move the funds into your country for investment. When it comes to business it is all about trust, legal processes, and legally binding agreements. The truth in this matter is that the said politician who is the original owner of the funds in the amount of USD$30,000,000.00 is under investigation for corruption allegations leveled against him. He is a top government official which is why the transaction has to be highly classified.
As a matter of fact, some of his bank accounts have been confiscated by the government; the case is currently in court. That is why he needs urgent assistance to move these funds to a safe place to invest the funds in a profitable business. The government knows nothing about this money, the said money is the last hope of the politician when he gets out of this case. Be rest assured all legal documents will be obtained in your name as his foreign business partner.
You will be entitled to 30% of the total sum for your assistance and you will also be in charge of the investment portfolio. If you accept to work with us you will be sent a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). I will be looking forward to your quick response.
Regards,
Peter Scott

Maybe his eagerness needs to be damped down somewhat. It's a risk, I admit.

Mr Scott
Well, I understand. Your investor wants to move his money to a safe place. But that's not the important issue here.
You said two things that need addressing; "all legal documents will be obtained in your name as his foreign business partner" and "you will also be in charge of the investment portfolio". The fact is, I've never run a business or done investment. I'm a retired US Marine, now earning my living as a survival instructor.
I don't think your investor would approve.
Regards
Malcolm Reynolds

Hey, no problem, apparently.

16 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
Your email was well received, and I want to state that honesty is a key attitude for progress. I want to thank you for telling me the truth about your person, that you do not have any investment experience. But as they say, if somebody offers you an amazing opportunity but you are not sure you can do it. Say yes then learn how to do it later. By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything. What we need is trust and honesty and you have earned that from your email response.
Based on this context of honesty we want to work with you on this transaction. You can receive the funds and help to buy some Commercial properties after you have taken your percentage as agreed. To get started kindly send your details, your address, phone number, and a scanned copy of your identification, it is required to draft the Non-Disclosure Agreements. I will be looking forward to receiving your details as soon as possible.
Regards,
Peter Scott

Mr Scott
I want to be sure that you understand the risks in trusting your plans to someone who's not skilled or experienced or trained in whatever you want done.
You said, "By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything" - well, if you want expertise in combat and survival, I'm your man. But I'm not the expert you're looking for. Honesty is all very well, but I wouldn't trust an honest rank beginner in bomb disposal to defuse an IED; I'd want an actual expert. Just saying.
But if it's your wish to give me this role, I can't refuse you outright. I will ask you something, though; you likely won't tell me which country your investor's from, but I'd like to know; what country are you from?
Regards
Malcolm Reynolds

Let's see what happens...

YOU ARE A INGE-AT AND A MAD MAN STOP CONTACT ME.

YOU ARE THE WORST FOOL I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE IDIOT

OU ARE AN IDIOT A BIG FOOL YOU ARE YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR FATHER THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH YOU FUCKING BASTARD LIKE YOU

:safari:

x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)

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"By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything" Aug 17, 2023 1:32:17 GMT rob419 likes this

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Post by Yastreb on Aug 17, 2023 1:32:17 GMT

This scammer has some flexibility, I'll grant him that.

16 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
I am a British citizen, but the politician is from one of the big countries in Africa. What I meant by hiring an expert, I mean to say if necessary you hire a business expert if need be I do understand your point. Investing the said funds now is not that necessary now the politician just needs protection for the funds.
Is even better for you to be a person with a military background that can handle classified information such as this one. You can receive the money in cash through diplomatic delivery with all legal backing documentation, then keep it under your care once the heat goes down. The investment can be arranged later on. But you will get 30% of the total sum for your assistance immediately after you receive the funds. I hope you understand better now.
Regards,
Peter Scott

I'd have normally questioned the "diplomatic delivery" but given that this politician could conceivably have a diplomat on hand, I let it go by.

Mr Scott
I'd have lost that bet. My money would have been on him being a Russian oligarch. But then I don't gamble that often.
Something I need to ask; you wrote, "You can receive the money in cash through diplomatic delivery with all legal backing documentation" - is that a wise move?
Regards
Malcolm Reynolds

YOU ARE A INGE-AT AND A MAD MAN STOP CONTACT ME.

YOU ARE THE WORST FOOL I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE IDIOT

OU ARE AN IDIOT A BIG FOOL YOU ARE YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR FATHER THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH YOU FUCKING BASTARD LIKE YOU

:safari:

x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)

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"By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything" Aug 18, 2023 11:02:28 GMT rob419 likes this

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Post by Yastreb on Aug 18, 2023 11:02:28 GMT

Mal's question provokes a wall of text, with details aplenty.

18 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
Movement of cash in large sums is possible and wise depending on the nature of a transaction such as this transaction. Using the banking sector to move the funds on this transaction is not wise due to lots of international financial restrictions in the banking sector, but by following the international rules and regulations as stipulated it is better to deliver the funds in cash. Let me educate you a little on this process because we have an idea of what we are doing also with a financial adviser who has advised the method to us to airlift the funds through a diplomatic courier service. IMPORTATION AND EXPORTATION OF FOREIGN CURRENCY(CASH COURIERS)Under the powers conferred on the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Foreign Exchange Act, 2006 (ACT723) rules governing the importation of foreign exchange and given the provisions of the Anti-Money Laundering Act, 2008 (Act 749) as amended. Any person arriving in or departing from any International Monetary Fund (IMF) member state is permitted to carry up to$10,000.00 or its equivalent in any other monetary instruments without declaration.
However, where the amount is in excess of $10,000.00, the whole amount shall be declared using the Currency Declaration Form (CDF) indicating the source and purpose for carrying such an amount. You must also declare at the point of entry or exit Failure to declare or a false declaration shall lead to the seizure and/ or forfeiture of all the currency or monetary instruments, and may be subjected to penalties and/ or criminal prosecution. Monetary instruments include coins, currency, traveler’s cheques, and bearer instruments such as personal or cashier cheques, bearer shares, and bonds. Transportation of currency through mail or cargo without proper documentation is strictly prohibited. Such amounts shall be confiscated by the State.
Meaning we need to obtain required documents such as the Anti-Money Laundering Certificate, Transportation of Currency Permit, and other required documents. The Transportation of Currency Permit document will be obtained from the US DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY FINANCIAL CRIMES ENFORCEMENT NETWORK. And many more legal financial instruments all we need is your acceptance to work with us, we sure know the legal method to get the consignment box to you via diplomatic courier services. As a former US marine, you will agree with me that the US military has means of transportation of large sums of money through the legal system, Be rest assured the politician and his team understand the process that will be abducted to deliver the funds to you without issues or whatsoever. Am still expecting to receive your details and we can proceed with this transaction as soon as possible.
Regards,
Peter Scott

A quick bout of Google-fu reveals that the Foreign Exchange Act, 2006 (ACT723) and the Anti-Money Laundering Act, 2008 (Act 749) are pieces of Ghanaian legislation.

Mr Scott
Well, now I know where your investor comes from. But that's barely relevant to the point that's come to mind. You said, "we have an idea of what we are doing also with a financial adviser who has advised the method to us to airlift the funds through a diplomatic courier service". If that's the case, why are you talking about "IMPORTATION AND EXPORTATION OF FOREIGN CURRENCY(CASH COURIERS)" and "the Foreign Exchange Act, 2006 (ACT723) rules governing the importation of foreign exchange and given the provisions of the Anti-Money Laundering Act, 2008 (Act 749)"? They wouldn't have any relevance!
Malcolm Reynolds

Scotty-boy has made an assumption. Mal will explain.

18 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
In my previous message to you, I was just explaining to you in detail to better understand the processes. It is necessary to obtain all legally required documents such as Source funds and other documents because when the consignment box containing the funds arrives in the US it has to go through the US CBP at the airport to get clearance. It is the required documents that will be presented to US CBP to secure customs clearance immediately after the shipment is cleared. We are good to deliver to your doorstep without issues whatsoever. As I have stated before you do not need to be worried all arrangements have been put in place we just need your corporation. Am still expecting to receive your details.
Regards,
Peter Scott

Mr Scott
Not meaning to be contrary, but let me point out some problems with your plan.
(a) "when the consignment box containing the funds arrives in the US" I don't live in America any longer.
(b) "it has to go through the US CBP at the airport to get clearance" Diplomats don't need customs clearance; they have diplomatic immunity.
Malcolm Reynolds

Your move, Bubba-Louie!

YOU ARE A INGE-AT AND A MAD MAN STOP CONTACT ME.

YOU ARE THE WORST FOOL I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE IDIOT

OU ARE AN IDIOT A BIG FOOL YOU ARE YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR FATHER THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH YOU FUCKING BASTARD LIKE YOU

:safari:

x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)

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"By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything" Aug 20, 2023 8:43:14 GMT rob419 likes this

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Post by Yastreb on Aug 20, 2023 8:43:14 GMT

Scotty replies with blithe unconcern. Is it a coincidence that he referred to Australia?

18 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
Yes, diplomats traveling with diplomatic passports do go through customs when they enter a country. However, they are generally subject to different procedures than those for other travelers. Diplomatic passports are issued to individuals who are representing their government, and they are entitled to certain privileges and immunities under international law. This includes exemptions from customs inspections and taxes. However, they are still subject to immigration and security checks like any other traveler.
That is why it is necessary to obtain the required legal documentation. It does not matter if you are not based in the US. Wherever you are it is the same procedure it will just be a different name of the agency for instance if you are in Australia. We have to obtain relevant documents to go through the Australian Border Force (ABF) to avoid issues on arrival. Going through any security checks is not a problem actually. The consignment can be delivered to you anywhere you want in Europe or Asia if you have any more questions and am more than happy to answer all your questions. I will be expecting to hear from you soon.
Regards,
Peter Scott

Mr Scott
As I told you before, I'm a retired US Marine. One of the duties of a Marine is to stand guard at embassies. I've met a lot of diplomats in my time, and I know how the Vienna Convention works. So I have to wonder why you'd try to sell me a bill of goods like this.
Malcolm Reynolds

He's still unconcerned.

20 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
It seems you enjoy writing emails and are not focused on my explanations. I am sure you are not serious about this transaction. If you are not interested, please move on. I don't have time for unnecessary questions. If you want to work with us send your details and we can go from there otherwise you can ignore it and move on.
Regards,
Peter

Time to shift to hardball.

Mr Scott
If you haven't got time for questions, then you're not being serious. And given that you're trying to sell me bullshit with that bafflegab about diplomats, I'm ready to disbelieve everything you told me. So I'll move on, Bubba-Louie, and you can go to hell.
Malcolm Reynolds

YOU ARE A INGE-AT AND A MAD MAN STOP CONTACT ME.

YOU ARE THE WORST FOOL I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE IDIOT

OU ARE AN IDIOT A BIG FOOL YOU ARE YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR FATHER THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH YOU FUCKING BASTARD LIKE YOU

:safari:

x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)

Yastreb
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"By hiring experts in any feed you can do anything" Aug 21, 2023 1:05:32 GMT rob419 likes this

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Post by Yastreb on Aug 21, 2023 1:05:32 GMT

I thought I might have lost Scotty with that last message, but no. What I was a wall of cut-and-pasted text for the most part.

21 August

Dear Malcolm Reynolds,
I apologize for the confusion, but it seems there was a mix-up in the conversation. The previous text you provided appears to be unrelated to the topic of diplomats and their types. Lets talk deep about diplomats and their rules just so you understand better,even though you have worked in different embassies as a retired US marine. Diplomats can be classified into several types based on their functions, responsibilities, and areas of expertise. Here are some common types of diplomats:
Ambassador: An ambassador is the highest-ranking diplomatic representative who serves as the official envoy of a country to another nation. Ambassadors are responsible for promoting and maintaining diplomatic relations, representing their country's interests, and negotiating agreements between governments.
Consul: Consuls are diplomats who work at consulates, which are diplomatic missions located in foreign cities. They assist and protect the interests of their country's citizens in the host country, provide consular services, promote trade and business relations, and facilitate cultural exchanges.
High Commissioner: High commissioners are similar to ambassadors but are used in Commonwealth countries. They represent one Commonwealth country in another member country, typically between countries that share a historical colonial relationship.
Permanent Representative: Permanent representatives, also known as permanent delegates or ambassadors, represent their country at international organizations such as the United Nations (UN), the World Trade Organization (WTO), or the European Union (EU). They participate in negotiations, advocate for their country's positions, and engage in multilateral diplomacy.
Special Envoy: Special envoys are appointed by governments to undertake specific diplomatic missions or negotiations. They are often given a specific mandate to address a particular issue or conflict and have the authority to negotiate on behalf of their government.
Political Counselor: Political counselors work within embassies and consulates and are responsible for analyzing and reporting on political developments in the host country. They provide advice to ambassadors or high-ranking officials on foreign policy matters, and they may also engage in public diplomacy efforts.
Economic Diplomat: Economic diplomats focus on promoting and facilitating economic relations between countries. They work to attract foreign investment, promote trade, negotiate economic agreements, and address economic issues affecting bilateral or multilateral relations.
Cultural Attaché: Cultural attachés promote cultural exchanges and understanding between countries. They organize cultural events, support educational and artistic programs, and facilitate cooperation in areas such as education, sports, arts, and literature.
These are just a few examples of the types of diplomats that exist. The specific titles and roles may vary across countries and diplomatic systems, but the overall objective is to represent and advance their country's interests through diplomacy.
But I want you to focus on Special Envoy, Special envoys are appointed by governments and top government officials to undertake specific diplomatic missions or negotiations. They are often given a specific mandate to address a particular issue or conflict and have the authority to negotiate on behalf of their government or top government official they can be assigned to make any type of deliveries.
Regards,
Peter

I don't get the reference to "The previous text you provided appears to be unrelated to the topic of diplomats and their types". I didn't provide any text; just my own words. But anyway...

Mal replies with suitable snark.

Mr Scott
There's this old line about grandmas and sucking eggs, but maybe you don't know it in Brexitland. Bottom line; DON'T PATRONIZE ME. Don't try to blind me with bafflegab. Don't show off your Google-fu. It don't impress me much, as Shania said.
Malcolm Reynolds

YOU ARE A INGE-AT AND A MAD MAN STOP CONTACT ME.

YOU ARE THE WORST FOOL I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE IDIOT

OU ARE AN IDIOT A BIG FOOL YOU ARE YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR FATHER THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH YOU FUCKING BASTARD LIKE YOU

:safari:

x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)