|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Nov 3, 2023 1:47:22 GMT
It must not be often, thought Dr. Jebediah Alfred Goreman over his evening tea, that a lad should desire, so desperately and single-mindedly, to be baited, such that in the absence of the slightest incentive, of any sign of life from his mugu, for months on end, he would in the pursuit of his dollas neither slacken nor tire, contributing piecemeal to the steady barrage of e-mails which he spirited along on their way to the Doctor's once-peaceful farmhouse in the pine forests of Mississippi, where the whirring of the fax-machine with its all too familiar 'network sound' came as it was carried over the fall breeze to drown out the birdsong and the crickets at night
The canned opener, and the scammer's canned response, demanding personal details of the sort that you should never give to a stranger on the Internet I forget about him for a year. This is not a luxury available to romance baiters, or indeed in most aspects of life, but the rare opportunity for a unilateral disengagement was refreshing The scammer eagerly adheres himself to the hook which I have cast The one-sided bait continues He wants to build a strawman, to scare his mugu into hastening the payment. But his account of events was not clear enough for the foolish Goreman, who offered at once and without hesitation to send the money (however much and on whatever pretext we do not know) to the imaginary third party. Sensing a particularly eager victim, the scammer rushes to provide bank details. The fruits of my approach evince its merits - usually these must be coaxed out of the lad through great effort I am still adamant that Mr. Williams (not the scammer) should receive my many fundssss I am so stupid and overflowing with cash that the scammer sees fit to reiterate his bank details And again ... The lad sits in his cafe in Lagos all day waiting to receive the fundssss and instructing me on how to speak to a bank teller "I have done nothing." - The G-Mail autoresponder suggested this, and I could not resist Something involving a steam locomotive Something involving a steam locomotive "Do you want a few gift cards, or several ?" / "Yes, I would quite like to have several hundreds of dollars, if this would not be a problem, please and thank you" Skipping a few dozen emails here - Mr. Goreman, out of courtesy if nothing else, finally succumbs to the scammer's demand for personal information, which he had made over a year prior. But the parochial American does not understand "swift code" Predictably, Mrs. Fishborne provides her bank details for the fourth time - now including a demand (or really just a statement) of the amount "$2,810 United States Dollars" Skipping a few emails again (the grand total approaches 150). Since Mrs. Fishborne (for no discernible reason) calls me Yusuf, I shall be calling her Yusuf from now on Two months and a few dozen more emails down the line, Yusuf is eager to take any opportunity to provide for me his bank details. He also increases his demand from $2810 to $4600 "but I will advise you to make it ... $5000" he has probably found a new ashawo whom he must furnish with bag and shoe
|
|
hacxx
Yahoo Boy
New in the forum.
Posts: 15
|
Post by hacxx on Nov 3, 2023 4:05:15 GMT
Thanks
|
|
|
Post by Yastreb on Nov 3, 2023 4:33:34 GMT
That reads almost like he was trying to haggle but got mixed up. "Normally I charge $2810, but for you I'll make it $4600, so shall we say... $5,000?"
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Nov 26, 2023 18:20:07 GMT
i lost the manuscript twice while writing please admin this proboards is a shit cannot cache post before it is sent for what If this is not clear - Blue is Jeb the mugu, Red is Yusuf the scammer, Purple is 'Jovan Petrović' the fake lad *** GEORGIAN GAMBIT ***"Yusuf, I have asked you to send me the details of a bank account in the United States. You have instead provided me with the details of a bank account in Atlanta, Georgia" "They also speak a different language: What is the meaning of this ქართული ენა I cannot read it, and I cannot understand it at all ... " "This form, which I am told pertains to the details of the receiver, is in the absurd and comical language of the Polish people which will surely confound any attempt to conclude this business." "To tell you the truth the translator is not available as she had to undergo surgery some months past an she is recuperating this is the problem." "I have on my own tried to translate and I can make some out but not all. The first one means names to be input the fourth part mean which bank is it going to"*** FAKE LAD FRENZY ***"Check his language structure what in the blazes is wahala and what is my share? Please my share of what?" "Look, are you OK. Why would you believe someone is my superior/ (RANK) all of a sudden are you OK don't you learn" "How can someone just contact you and tell you all this stories and tell you to send money" "I hope you have digested all my emails to you." *** LAD ON LAD ***"Imagine this? I advised you and you refused to listen." "Oga please ooo i see all of your mails wey oyinbo mumu send for my account. Please oga read well we split this mumu 50 50 or i will tell him that you are 419." "Please oga i am just a poor boy from ondo state ok." "Also, Yusuf, you have forwarded a very strange email from Jovan. What is the meaning of all this? What is an oga? What is 419? Is he calling me 'oyinbo mumu'? What does that mean?"*** BAIT ENTERS THANKSGIVING RECESS ***"I will be occupied for a few days. You can expect me back by Monday (November 27th) at the latest."Much has transpired in three weeks - there has been much wailing and gnashing of teeth, and still the mugu's monies are no closer to Yusuf in Nigeria ... Friday, 3rd November 10:40 CST11:04I thought it would be prudent, for the safety of the bait, to wait a little while before reporting these. But since almost a month has passed I think I will send them in now
11:0511:27It seems that this lad like many others nowadays uses emails as instant messages, even sending dozens at a time (as we will see later), instead of stopping for a moment to consider what he may want to add, then adding it and sending only ONE email to the mugu, thus preserving some decorum and making the conversation more legible
14:41 Yusuf, I have asked you to send me the details of a bank account in the United States. Attached is the Polish bank form as described, courtesy of www.scambaitingtools.com/receipts.htm - Some of the words do not resolve in any translator program, I do not think these are real Polish words
I cannot decide if the mugu is some illiterate backcountry yokel or an educated seeker of the pastoral ideal - I have mostly gone with the latter, as it allows me to be more inquisitive with the scammer, and to write as the main character in a manner that is natural and comes easier. You will see this contrast emerge strongly later on - I give the lad instructions on how to edit a document digitally, and a week later I complain (or really, try to display to the lad) that I want to conclude the business quickly, "so that I will not have to visit the computer so often - I have to call my son so he can help me understand the internets and I think I am bothering him"14:46The second form. It looks a little silly but the lad took it. And we have solidly established that Atlanta is a neighborhood in Tbilisi, Georgia22:16 / 04:16 Naija time (The difference becomes an hour greater after 5th November) How awfully lazy !!! I cannot square this with him being up so early. But perhaps he is just arriving home after a night at the beer parlour22:23He wants ME to fill in the forms, which I provided for HIM, because only HE has the necessary information. What an idiot !22:51Later I make my replies more scarce, according to best practice. Also, since he has not given me his scam story (at least, not since we exchanged our first e-mails in the summer of 2022), I take anything that he says and stick it on him. He addresses me as Yusuf (an Autocorrect malfunction ?) - he is now Yusuf. He mentions Chase Bank - he is now an employee at that bank. And he is happy to comply, presenting himself accordingly.
Saturday, 4th November07:1107:14The IDIOT scammer reiterates the bank details of his mule not once but twice. I really don't understand this, as I had already explained his error07:18
09:07 Sunday, 5th November05:31Really not very inventive "various security purposes" come now Yusuf you can do better. The code is for a papoose, or a porpoise, surely. Also "from henceforth" it is obvious that he has never left his village09:45 Mr. Yusuf Gy23p At first, I take it that Gy23p is his surname, or at least write it that way. But soon I give up on the code entirely
11:49He is more concerned with the elderly widow who has been writing to me than with the 5000 dollars he will receive tomorrow if he can only be bothered to fill in two forms
12:0012:01 Gy23p Again 'various security reasons' you can at least tell the mugu that they are harkers and fraudstars
15:00No, Yusuf, all the "informations needed" are not with me. I don't even know "which informations" they are, because I do not understand the faux-Polish of the form.15:06In almost all further emails from Yusuf the 'security code' Gy23p appears as the first line19:25Of course, Yusuf has not claimed to be a bank employee at all. It is only that in the matter of the translator he has implied that he is part of some organization.
23:36 / 05:36 Naija timeAn aside: You can tell a lad's timezone from the email residue (or whatever it is called) which underlies the body of an email sent in reply. In a Gmail client, this can be accessed by clicking on the button with three dots underneath the body of an email which you send or receive in reply.
When he received my email, his client recorded the time as 2:25. In my client, I see that I sent the email at 19:25. So he is seven hours ahead of me, and therefore probably in Nigeria (but could be anywhere in the UTC+1 timezone) - we will later see that he is most likely a Nigerian when he provides translations of Nigerian Pidgin terms used by my fake ladMonday, 6th November 01:4002:5503:0404:0006:11Naija mumu learns Polish. In other news, oyinbo mumu receives his millions
07:1007:55How can the money have already been sent, if it is getting ready to leave ? Now he is doing all of the work in the bait: confusing himself
14:3519:4920:0123:12Now he is really anxious, and the possibility that I am dealing with another lad is clawing at him23:34Tuesday, 7th November 01:3905:21 love to see it
05:3514:05I love berating the lad like this. And it's true: he has failed to answer very simple questions, and to perform the most basic duties of his job (he is apparently now a bank employee)
Wednesday, 8th November05:26What an arrogant fool !!!I am sending him his dollas, so that he can chop garri and drink Trophy beer very well. Is it for him to decide which questions are necessary ?He also increases the fee by more than two hundred percent, without ANY explanation. (What is "from my own findings" supposed to mean ?) Typically, you are supposed to pull the rug out from under the mugu AFTER he has sent you a substantial amount of money, and not before. IDIOT !!!(He attaches the English-language bank form, where he has entered the details of his mule's bank account in Georgia)19:52Thursday, 9th November 01:1702:4404:2006:1306:47This is some kind of slip, I don't know if he ever intended to admit his real location. But I don't think I had noticed it before - sometimes I neglect to read his dozens of often repetitive emails which he sends in rapid succession10:1716:0323:06Friday, 10th November 01:2509:3713:3715:4720:06I had had enough of this idiot yahoo boy from the bush, so I ask him to send me to his oga21:5522:0922:12For the THIRD time I am forced to reiterate these very simple questions about his scam story22:4423:35(Attached are two scam emails with headers which I had received in my inbox during the previous few weeks. I had not actually corresponded with these scammers)23:39It is very strange how I can never seem to accept the scammer's responses and excuses until Friday evening, by which time the banks are closed. And before Monday, something else always seems to pop up ...Saturday, 11th November05:5810:3114:0014:0714:2314:3915:12This is all shockingly vague, I thought you had to be educated and intelligent to come up with something so vague
15:3615:5916:0516:2917:16Sunday, 12th November 03:0315:18
20:08 Monday, 13th November 00:09Mississippi farmer does not understand Commonwealth usage of 'receipt'00:17His mistake ... Nonsense ! He will take any opportunity to grovel 02:1404:3505:3112:0813:13The idiot scammer in sending his swarms of emails commits several errors like this which expose him as being outside of the United States. But I should not point them out too much, of course, as this would educate him15:45What an absurd and lazy excuse !!! Why would he, in the United States (as he would have it), schedule an email to me, also in the United States, asking whether I had arrived at my bank, to be sent at 2:00 in the morning ?Tuesday, 14th November 01:1803:5606:3209:4409:4612:1515:2115:52To compliment myself, this is a great response from me after over a day of agony for the scammer. It addresses none of the important questions (about the money and when will I go to the bank and which mule will I send the money to) and only the stupid questions which he sees fit to repeat over and over (are you reading my emails, why are you being silent, are you treating the matter with urgency) - in this way, the day has been COMPLETELY WASTED, that is, the scam has not progressed at all.
I apologize also for the extra spacing - it has developed somehow in switching frequently between Preview and BBCode view, copying the text of the post so that it is not lost. I will continue from here in a short while, but I do not think I should make this post any longer, and I am not sure if it is possible
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Nov 30, 2023 1:35:31 GMT
Continuing where I left off The blue color - representing my mugu character Jebediah Goreman - is a little brighter, for dark-mode users. Also the orange color represents the lad's other characters
Tuesday, 14th November
16:19 CST
23:13
Wednesday, 15th November
02:27
10:47
16:13 "Once I send you the money, how long will it be before I get my fundsssss ?"
Thursday, 16th November
02:40 03:44
10:57
17:35
18:09
18:25
21:33
Friday, 17th November
01:43 The reason that you are saying the same thing over and over again, Yusuf, is that you have chosen to say the same thing over and over again. You have sent four emails in seven hours. Are you really that hungry?
04:58
09:13
17:07 Of course there are no more problems, the scammer has answered all of my questions satisfactorily, and I am ready to send the money. Why am I ready to send the money? Because it is Friday evening, and the banks are closed. On Saturday evening, Yusuf will hear of Jovan Petrović, an employee of the United Nations who has prepared an ATM card worth 1.7 million dollars in Jebediah Goreman's name. This will derail the bait, provoke panic in the lad, and confuse and worry the mugu. It is not my intention to spoil the story, but all of these developments mean that Monday will come and pass, and Yusuf will not be able to replenish his stocks of garri and ground nut, and the wheel of his cart, laden with apples and chewing sticks, which he pushes around the winding streets and alleys of Lagos when his scamming skills fail him will continue to squeak and run cock-eyed ...
18:01 From an account with a similar name to Yusuf's. He later confirms that James Lloyd is not "an impostor, like Jovan" (but rather one of his bruddas, or himself)
Saturday, 18th November
11:53
17:17 Yes, everything is fine, everything is beautiful. The mugu is relieved at the end of the arduous march. And for the lad, there is but one question, ostensibly to tide him over, but really to prepare him for what is to come.
Sunday, 19th November
04:13 How can an approval be authorised ?
06:25
20:43 Yes, the mugu is well, and his wife cannot derail the transaction at this late hour. It is all smooth sailing for Yusuf in Nigeria, and soon, he will collect his dollars and chop very well. But there is smoke on the horizon ...
Now that Jovan Petrović has entered the bait, the record of Jeb's conversation with him will be posted, providing the context and back-story for the events of the coming weeks:
Tuesday, 14th November
19:03 A genuine scam letter, lifted from this website.
Wednesday, 15th November
16:09 Jeb is an experienced mugu, you see, he shops around for the best offers
Thursday, 16th November
00:22 Bolded conspicuous lad-isms
17:46 Of course, Jovan does not press on the matter of the ID card
22:15 "I cannot reply immediately. It is not possible within the bounds of space and time."
Friday, 17th November
17:24
Saturday, 18th November
18:37
Sunday, 19th November
05:12 False name, false address
20:57 As you see in this email, it was my intention from the beginning to cross the streams - to put the lads against each other. I was happily surprised when Yusuf asked to see Jovan's emails, so that I did not have to force the modality down his throat
Monday, 20th November
03:49 The dollar chop commences. Jovan is Yusuf's oga, directed by a higher power to take over the transaction. He generously reduces the fee (this is the one aspect of the fake lad story which is unbelievable, and should have tipped off the scammer), possibly as an incentive for Jeb to comply, and redirects it to himself. He ends with a courteous and dignified signoff.
Returning to Yusuf:
Sunday, 19th November
21:47 The lad panics, as desired
22:13 "There's no such thing as an ATM payment"
23:42 No, your vocabulary is too much for me, please repeat it all a few times and stick to shorter words
Monday, 20th November
08:20 I then forward to Yusuf the entire conversation with Jovan, and to Jovan, my conversation with Yusuf stretching back to the 10th of November Remarkably, for reasons that I do not know, the lad takes over a day to react to this shocking turn of events. When he does, it takes a little while before he remembers to excuse himself.
Tuesday, 21st November
11:56 Thunder cracks, the storm-cloud rolls, the fax machine whirrs, prints, and does not rest, conveying the lamentations of a lad scorned. The storm thus begins, which has not ceased. "How can someone just contact you and tell you all this stories and tell you to send money"
11:57
12:03
12:09
12:10
12:26
12:43
12:52
13:04
13:24 Over an hour and a half of continuous lad panic !!! A record for me
16:30
16:47
17:11
17:16
18:00
18:31
18:54
23:40 "How does this add up when you're not a fool" I don't know, you tell me ...
Wednesday, 22nd November
01:36
02:10
02:31
02:36 - Jovan enters the fray, with an email to Yusuf
02:55
03:05
03:06
03:15
03:21
08:10 Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, and Jeb the father of three and family man has no time for this minor office dispute between two representatives of the same bank which has been taking place in his inbox. But he is confused about some exotic terms which Jovan has used with Yusuf, and asks for an explanation ... TO BE CONTINUED
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 9, 2023 4:39:48 GMT
Continuing where we left off, with Yusuf and Jovan receiving Jeb's email about his absence over Thanksgiving - there is a lot to catch up on - fortunately the pace of emails from Yusuf has slowed, but he is still invested And a Slavic Pagan church bait is in the works (separately to this), initial conversations are currently proceeding with several lads As before, red is the lad's main character, orange are the lad's other characters, blue is the mugu Jebediah, purple is the fake lad Jovan Petrovic (real name Emmanuel Oyetunde) *** LAD-ON-LAD CONTINUES ***"I don't know you are responding to his email when you are educated.""Delete his email and block it for your own good I have warned you severally." "Oga you betray our trust thunder go fire you""Oga why you forward my mails to oyinbo mumu ooooo""I have been in a situation where I trusted partners and I never heard from them again after the payment." *** LAD FORCED TO TRANSLATE PIDGIN ***"mumu the full meaning is a dumb person""we split this mumu 50 50, this means he wants us to share this white dumb man's money""This mean he is just a poor boy from a state in Nigeria" "I also want you to explain all of the strange words and terms that he has used.""Oga means big uncle or brother or so""Oga abeg how you ask me I go call i bow o i dey fear you go send EFCC down on me""Look, I explained to you that I had to use a translator read my previous email. And the language is called fowl language. Like the Jamaicans."*** LAD "GOES ON TRIP" TO LAGOS (read: admits real location to receive Moneygram payment) *** "I wrote earlier that I was going to be on an official trip which I am now and successful in the Africa region" "Receiver Name. Daniels ****** ******* Lagos Nigeria" *** LAD EVADES MTCN READING OVER PHONE ... FOR NOW *** "Please reply soon and tell me what you think. But DON'T send any more information over email. I am worried that Petrovic is listening in.""I have been too busy to even give a call." ----------------------
Wednesday, 22nd November 09:11Almost every email from the lad hereafter begins with the 'security code' Y115k as the first line. Of course, Yusuf's half-hearted translations of entire sentences here are not nearly enough to satiate Jeb's curiosity. In the future, he will press much harder, seeking to understand the meaning of such elusive terms as 41909:1409:2917:47Thursday, 23rd November
04:2204:35 (Jovan, to Yusuf) Jovan knows that Jeb has seen his private correspondence with Yusuf, because Jeb mentioned it in his email of Friday morning, which was addressed to both scammers10:4419:0223:19Sunday, 24th November02:4106:09 (to Jovan) This email was sent from a heretofore unseen to Jovan's inbox. Since Jovan never receives spam email, I am certain this is the lad, wanting to speak by phone with his Naija broda. As you will see, Jovan did not reply to it directly (I am sure that something in the header would have given away that I was not half the guyman I claimed to be, even if I had changed my timezone), but sent a new email to Yusuf's main mailbox08:54Monday, 25th November04:3307:47One of the more competently crafted forms from scammers that I have seen, unlike most, it is not covered in seals and stamps and signatures, but a lot of gibberish and technobabble. A worrying improvement in their capabilities, I think.07:49If it really is as good as the cash, can't I just take it to my bank and withdraw the amount ?
Sunday, 26th November08:58 (to Yusuf) More Pidgin from Jovan. I find that naijalingo is a poor source, because it cannot be searched for English definitions of Pidgin words, but only for Pidgin words themselves, so it is practically useless for someone seeking to replace English words with Pidgin, and because some of the words there are not Pidgin at all - for example fugazzy which is actually New York Italian slang. Glosbe is very useful for translating words and phrases into Pidgin - direct translations are not provided, instead, the user is presented with English sentences containing the term he has queried, and Nigerian Pidgin translations of the same (that is, two versions of the same written work - usually a religious tract.) It is then the work of the user to examine the material and decide how to translate the term into Pidgin. In case the meaning of Jovan's words is not clear: Boss, I beg, how can you ask me to call you? I am worried that you will send the EFCC to me through the use of my phone number Have you not received an address in Akure, Ondo state (the Moneygram receiver information which Jovan provided to Jeb, and which was then forwarded to Yusuf), which is not enough (in terms of personal information which poses a threat to Jovan's safety) Please boss we talk by email for now 11:0711:11Note the numerous changes which were made to Jovan's email16:4717:5020:2821:37Again with the 'various security reasons'. Is that the best his oga can coach him to say? also a respectful signoff there "try your best to send me my dollars"
Wednesday, 27th November05:4005:4311:1618:4420:1620:4120:5423:41Tuesday, 28th November
03:0304:4408:45 - Jovan to Yusuf Jovan characteristically slips back into Pidgin before having written two sentences in proper English, which, as you see, he threatens to send to the mugu. He is much like the idiot genius hacker Joojoo in this regard13:5216:15These are a lot of questions which cannot be answered easily, and I'm not really sure what I was trying to achieve, other than to make the lad sweat. He certainly did not reply to this as frantically as he had in the past, and I believe that it caused him to give up, to a degree, or to lose faith that he could conclude the scam successfully.20:23As I expected, Yusuf fails to mention a particular sequence of digits. But many loose ends remain, at which the mugu will pull and tear in the coming days. The bait, undoubtedly, has descended from its climax, when a dollar chop seemed imminent and for a certain Lagos guyman the rebuke of his Oga loomed above like a sentence passed - his scam a case judged, his mugu of sixteen months and counting 'the one that got away'. Will his pot of garri be refilled, or will he be forced to quit 419 and return to truck pushing? It remains to be seen ...
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 10, 2023 8:00:47 GMT
To continue - as before, red is the lad Yusuf and blue is the mugu Jebediah Goreman
Tuesday, 28th November
8:25
Wednesday, 29th November
00:53 He is now reduced to begging very obviously like a small boy. It should be the mugu who is desperate to receive his millions, and the lad who insists on the formalities, the certificates, the photo ID and so on
01:31
15:03 Useless questions, and difficult questions, for the lad James Lloyd is a kind of 'security guy', a persona reminiscent of a detective when writing as whom the lad is particularly attentive to use the Queen's English, whose purpose is to email the mugu periodically encouraging him to make the payment
17:25
17:26 Sad to see that he has nothing better to do than email me over and over. And to see that when he asks me to email him at another account, he assumes that I will not have understood or complied with his instructions, and neglects even to check it before pushing me to write him ... Well, I'm not sure whether this is good or bad for the bait. At least, it is more stressful for the mad, because the mugu is unreliable and cannot be herded around
17:46 Fowl language, like the crow of a chicken
22:50 Is this all I will get out of him? Is this how he talks to his ashawo?
Thursday, 30th November
02:08
07:42 A few days after the matter of Jovan's strange language had passed, the lad's brain cell fires off - he can charge the mugu for this !
17:07
19:26 Very funny obvious lies and psychologically revealing behaviors - the lad points out his honesty and moral conduct
20:11
23:34
Friday, 1st December
02:40
07:36
17:08 What is that supposed to mean? Is he really so emotionally weak? Here I begin to enjoy leaving him for two or three days
17:36
19:15
20:31
23:37
Saturday, 2nd December
08:16
12:14 Really how hungry is this guy I keep saying you are meant to pull the rug out from under the mugu AFTER he has sent you a substantial amount of money !!! If I send him five thousand dollars, he can then notify me that he wanted to release the fund, but he was informed by his superiors, for example, that the matter of the translator was not resolved, that he did not have the authority to invoice for the costs but rather that a balance of $1210 (as he had stated) remained, and that it was my liability, and had to be cleared before I could receive the millions ... Because such a charge has a solid foundation in earlier events, and is substantially SMALLER than the initial amount, I believe that a genuine mugu would certainly pay it ... But he is the guyman, not me. So I must trust that he knows his trade
17:49
19:41 This is a great shtick / tactic from Pricky - sometimes understatement is the best. Now the lad must reiterate the content of the dozens of emails which he has sent
23:44 I cannot do it first thing in the morning, because tomorrow is Sunday, idiot fool. And he STILL begs for the additional amount. But he doesn't even demand it - forcefully and decisively - as he should, instead, he poses it as a question !!! He is an investment banker, and I am a farmer in dire financial straits. If it is not absolutely necessary for me to send him twelve hundred and ten dollars, why should I send him twelve hundred and ten dollars ?
Sunday, 3rd December
19:12 A brilliant idea from Dr. Goreman. Why can't Yusuf invoice Jovan for the translator's fee? They are colleagues, after all
19:57
Monday, 4th December
03:15
04:53
17:40 Yes, I'm sure you do
20:01 A long letter from Jeb wherein he describes his troubles at the bank, his ambitions for the future (after he receives the three million dollars) and embarrassingly articulates his idea of "exorbitant price", and of the purpose and benefits of wealth. I had decided at this point that I wanted to get the lad on the phone so that I could 'call him the MTCN' in the old familiar expression. But it has also happened that bringing up Moneygram caused him to divulge that he is in Nigeria, or, as discussed in the beginning of the last post, "on a business trip" there ... In any case, it has brought us closer to a safari, which would be a crowning achievement for me, and I feel that a phone call with reversed voice and unpleasant sound effects would terribly damage my credibility with the lad and imperil this possibility. If anyone is reading this, I would like to take the opportunity to solicit advice: would it be reasonable for me to claim something along these lines - that Jovan contacted me from another email and instructed me to send the money to him, via Moneygram (as he originally requested some weeks ago), and I complied, and that because of suspected financial crimes on Jovan's part the money was received by the Moneygram office in Nigeria, but held there, and could be claimed by someone of my choosing (read: Yusuf). If I can get him to believe this, then, I am sure, he will believe that Jovan has moved from Akure, Ondo state (only 185 miles from Lagos) to nearby Ikare-Akoko (239 miles: a full safari). The main problem, in my opinion, is that a real Moneygram outlet will be involved, whom the lad might call to confirm the story before setting off on the trip. Usually, from what I have seen, safaris involve fake hotels and/or fake delivery companies. I might instead tell him that Jovan asked me to send a parcel to him in Benin (I also wonder if this could be credible) - then, realizing his deceit, ordered the delivery company to hold the parcel. As a consequence, it is in their warehouse, waiting to be collected by a more fortunate guyman. And because of political issues (read: failure to bribe certain officials), the company cannot operate in Nigeria, so the lad must come to Benin. A tried and true strategy.
Tomorrow the thread will be brought up to date - with about 40 emails from the lad which consist of the same incessant demands to send the payment, and one email from me
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 11, 2023 10:58:12 GMT
To continue - As before bold applied to emails is emphasis for posting here
Monday, 4th December
20:56 Tuesday, 5th December
05:23 Another bank account for Ogun go thunderfire
09:24 I can understand sending money across the country, or even internationally, for the purchase of farm implements. But to upgrade them ? Obviously he has never left his Oga's compound since he was taken from the streets of Lagos as a small boy and given his first laptop to manually email bomb the Oyinbo
12:22
Wednesday, 6th December
00:56
17:43
17:45
17:52 There is plenty of time, Yusuf, dear. Plenty of time ...
19:11
17:36
22:53
23:39 After 48 hours the symptoms of mugu withdrawal become markedly more acute
Thursday, 7th December
02:11
03:06
13:57 Rural banks, of course, to contrast with the urban and international finance in which Yusuf deals
16:11 It is refreshing to work with a lad who is so compliant and respectful. And all that I had to do to get him in this state was - to take a break for a few days !?
16:23
14:30 This isn't nearly enough, of course. I will press him for his street address, I have found a form for the purpose. He writes Lagos Nigeria and ends with a period - in a resigned tone - like he is admitting a deep secret, bracing for the consequences ...
21:19
Friday, 8th December
04:31
06:37
13:14 It takes him this long to even mention one of the points of my email - which is that he should call me, because I fear that the impostor Petrovic has harked my email box, that there are too many harkers and fraudstars, and that we must do it over the phone for security porpoise ...
19:23
19:33 A damned liar
19:55 Lagos lads can never decide whether they are dealing with 'these informations', or 'these information', or 'this informations'
23:14 Yes, I read your emails, and I reply when I want. What are you going to do about it? Or as Pricky might say (taking the lad literally and dodging the thrust of the statement) What do you mean, you know I read your emails? Of course I read your emails. How could I be speaking to you if I didn't read your emails?
Saturday, 9th December
02:31 I don't know why he always capitalizes 'time'. Does it have a spiritual dimension for him - he must appease the relevant juju deities by allocating to them capital letter ?
02:56 He wants to stay up all night chatting with me
08:19 "You say I caused this but it's the other way round" Well, you say I'm going to receive money, but it's the other way round. So there
19:47
22:36 Surely there isn't any way for him to tell whether I have read his emails in a Gmail mailbox? Someone please advise
Sunday, 10th December
06:43 But then - how could he say this? If I had read his emails, and he knew this, he would know that I was well
07:51 No one is reading my email? Well, that explains his behavior ...
10:27 What is it with these illiterate village boys and their Erratic capitalization ?
15:35
18:09 I didn't say anything about my wife, and my voicemail doesn't contain a woman's voice: -Mr. Goreman: both Rene and I have tried to call you several times and it just rolls to music that continues to play until you shut it off. We cannot leave you a message. What a foolish and awful liar.
Well, despite Yusuf's unending barrages of emails, we are caught up - you are reading the bait, as it stands now. What is next? - The wily Mr. Petrović is back in the game! He has emailed the mugu with a new name (Theodore Malinowski), and from another Gmail account - using a scam letter which presents him as "Auditor General in African Development Bank Republic Du Benin" - Soon (in a few weeks), Jeb will make a payment to the Beninois banker Malinowski (Absurd enough? No...) - who insists on receiving cash in a package (to avoid taxes and the interest of authorities, etc. - and also to wring a bit extra out of the mugu, in the form of gifts - a watch, for example) - A few days after the package departs, Petrovic (from his original account) will email Yusuf as a parting shot, mocking him for his failure to extract payment after working the mugu for over sixteen months ... and describing his recent scam on Jeb, including the name of his new character, Theodore Malinowski - But critically, he will not forward emails from the new account, or otherwise provide proof that he is Malinowski. - When Yusuf emails Jeb in a panic instructing him to "get your money back from them !!!", Jeb will resist and cast doubt on Jovan's story. After all, he has not provided any proof that he is Malinowski. But what we do know, as a certainty, is that he is reading Jeb's emails - he has harked the mailbox after all. - This confusion will continue for a few days, until the parcel arrives in Benin (Parakou, of course). Then, Jeb will finally understand, and block Jovan's Malinowski persona - If it is not possible to enlist the generous help of Birlic and Linoline's shipping company, I will start my own. It does not seem too difficult - The parcel will be held up in Benin on some pretext. The shipping company will either decline to return it, or demand an exorbitant fee, which I will flat-out refuse to pay. - And of course, the shipping company cannot operate in Nigeria. - But they can take the parcel as far as Seme border, where there are many fine hotels, and where Yusuf in Lagos could easily collect the money (much more than the five thousand that he is now demanding) and be done with the matter ...
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 16, 2023 21:47:56 GMT
To continue and update the post with the progress of the bait
Sunday, 10th December
21:23 - Theodore to Jeb The initial scam letter from Theodore Malinowski - as discussed earlier, the new character employed by Jovan Petrović, the fake lad, who by using a new mailbox and name has evaded Jeb's block on his account and re-entered the game. Of course, Jeb eagerly bites the hook and responds. But as you will see later, it was eventually decided not to create a correspondence spanning weeks with the fake lad Malinowski, because there was no time (perhaps there would have been, if I had had a coherent plan earlier on) - Jeb soon entered payment stage with Yusuf, and the modality needed to appear immediately
Monday, 11th December
08:33 Yes, whatever is convenient for you, just as long as I receive my fundssss
19:50
20:12 He is really demanding, to an insane level, I want to get him on the phone so that I can slap him, but he doesn't have enough money to call me
Tuesday, 12th December
00:05 I notice now that he says he 'had to go on a trip'. I assume he is referring to his 'business trip' in Nigeria. But I never asked him to go to Nigeria, and nothing requires that he should be in Nigeria, because it is possible to receive Moneygram transfers in most countries. So I don't know why he makes this absurd claim, and I will be sure to challenge it.
09:06
10:23 In hindsight this was a terribly compliant response, I don't think I even called him out for lying that he had called me (and proving that he had lied, by giving a false description of my voicemail message, as you have seen in the last post). I would have done well to delay things, by asking such questions and criticizing his behavior (and there is much to be criticized ...)
16:26 This IDIOT scammer gave his American mugu a number for dialling internally in Nigeria and a completely non-existent postal code (postal codes in nigeria have SIX digits and not four). Also, the matter of which money transfer office is closer to me is not one of feeling ("Western Union which you feel is more closer to you")
Wednesday, 13th December
12:45 It is clear that I (both in the persona of Jeb Goreman and in reality) begin to lose my head in dealing with this arrogant fool, from the sentences which trail off, and from the repeated expressions of exasperation. But unfortunately, I still made a promise to the lad that I would return to the office the next day, if he could figure out his own address
13:37 He writes only one line in apology, and when signing off, seems to cast doubt on ME, and MY competence and trustworthiness, when he has just wasted my time and held up the money. "all this is not my fault" Whose fault is it then ? He couldn't even be bothered to come up with a story, like the Polish translator "recovering from surgery" - I fear that he is starting to lose his vigor, and maybe he thinks that I will never pay, so he doesn't care as much about the scam.
Several times over the following evening and night, he repeats his email over and over, adding spaces between the lines and making minor alterations
Thursday, 14th December
07:11
09:12
11:30
14:11 So, you had to move to a different hotel, because you didn't know your own address, and couldn't figure it out? Or were you, an international bank executive, staying at a hotel without a formal address?
17:05 That's right, Yusuf, you door.
19:51
Friday, 15th December
08:13
17:54
At about this time, I was drafting an email from Theodore in reply to Jeb, who had provided his "full informations" to the former. Theodore was to advance the scam and set the stage for payment (specifically cash in a parcel). But given the fast-approaching and unavoidable matter of the Western Union payment I decided after having written most of the email that it would not be possible to create a genuine dialogue between myself and Malinowski, and that Jovan (on his original account) was needed, to break the news immediately to Yusuf and to start the next chapter of the bait. But to explain how the story has progressed (and Jeb will relate to Yusuf the details which Theodore discusses here), and to illustrate the character of this fake lad, the text of the draft email will be provided
19:00 (shall we say) - Theodore to Jeb At the very beginning of the email, Theodore makes reference to Jeb's remarks in the previous email, which is omitted here for brevity. You can see one reason I chose not to complete the correspondence between Jeb and Theodore and forward it to Yusuf - the plain absurdity of the story ("severing of money transfer cables by coup soldiers") and of the lad's diction, which would cast doubt on the existence of the lad, and contrast with the mugu's insistence (with Yusuf) on proper forms and modes, his attention to detail, and generally his competence in business, with which Yusuf should be well acquainted, and which he should respect, but apparently does not. And another thing - we're sending him to Ghana now, not to Benin. I think it is more reasonable for a Nigerian to have family and/or to spend his holiday in Ghana, where English is spoken. So Jovan (Emmanuel Oyetunde) is staying in Ghana over Christmas, and intended to receive the parcel there
Saturday, 16th February
00:11 - Jovan (to Yusuf) I notice now that I made an obvious error in describing the parcel as "containing some tens of thousands of cash", I should have specified dollars (as would be necessary for someone in Nigeria or in Ghana), because no lad will go to Accra for twenty thousand Naira. This is an obvious Americanism along with referring to "north part of Nigeria". But a lot of the email is farcical, and it didn't seem to tip Yusuf off. One serious error, however, was the failure to mention that I (Jovan/Theodore/Emmanuel) had directed the mugu (Jeb) to block Yusuf's emails - this would excuse my tardiness in responding to him and failure to return to the Western Union office as I had promised. But it seems that Yusuf is really daft, and doesn't capture such details, even if they are dangled before him, and adorned with flashing lights - soon, you will see him chastise me for not blocking Jovan, as I had promised. Of course, Jovan wrote in his email that he used a DIFFERENT NAME, and a DIFFEREMT MAILBOX, you idiot
00:53
01:00
04:08
09:22 He continues pushing this ridiculous idea that his "business trip to Africa" was on my account. I raised with him a grievance that he had me running around, and then he says that his trip to Africa, which he alerted me to after it had already begun, is MY fault. No, Yusuf, I haven't taken you for a ride yet. And in fact, as he claims, I have received three missed calls from Nigeria on my Google Voice phone
15:40 The two expanded lines are my own, from the original email. Well, this is what Yusuf in Nigeria has just received, it should sufficiently clear up the points which he was too daft to understand, convince him of my desire for a continued partnership, and (most importanly) imbue him with greed - in the form of a sixfold pay-rise, if he will make the leap to Accra and collect the parcel. His honor is also on the line, what with Jovan's continued taunting. As I have said before, I feel that the lad is coming off of the hook, and becoming less invested in the bait. So I hope that this will reel him back in. Either the bait ends here, or my first safari begins !
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 19, 2023 16:24:18 GMT
*** PARCEL PUNCH-UP ***"I do not see how a package could be delivered to the dead." "there is no way I will wear an under pants just because I wish to receive a parcel." "You cannot issue any directions to the company. The parcel continues to its destination- Accra, Ghana." "If you do not complete the Biometric Identification Procedure, you cannot be named as the recipient of the parcel." Saturday, 16th December
22:34Predictably, the lad is still begging for five thousand dollars, when he is about to receive thirty dollars. And he instructs me to do his work, contacting the delivery company and changing the receiving address.Sunday, 17th December
08:37 Apparently in Lagos "some minutes" means three and a half hours. Lazy bastard
12:03A very noble and diligent man! He will bribe the officials, so that I can receive my money quickly.Monday, 18th December
06:21A new chapter of the story begins, with Jeb Goreman creating a new account as requested by the scammer, and Rupert Colis-******, representative of the shipping company, entering the scene. My sincere thanks to Birlic, who acquainted me well with the prompt and diligent customer service which his shipping company offers, which has won for it the kind affection and continued patronage of its many West African customers, for his aid in the usage of the shipping company modality for this scammer, and for the dispensation for me to create characters to pass them off as representatives of the company.10:57The name and website link of the shipping company are obscured, so as not to create results that could be viewed in a search engine, and thereby jeopardize the modality. You can read about the shipping company modality, and enlist its services, here. For the same reason, the full name of the character who I have created, the representative of the shipping company, is also obscured. His second surname, which is hyphenated with Colis (meaning 'parcel' in French), is 'Claude' backwards13:33Lazy and arrogant bastard as usual15:2015:46I don't have his passport and I didn't claim to (or claim that the delivery company does), so it's obvious that he was too lazy to read my email. If he wants the information of the fake lad, he will contact the shipping company, who will tell him that they cannot disclose the private information of one customer to another.15:57"I need to show commitment", when I'm giving you instructions on how to collect a parcel which contains thirty thousand dollars in cash17:43 (from Jeb's old account)17:48 - Jeb to Yusuf18:21 - Yusuf to JebHe is too stupid to understand that I am not asking him for ID (as someone might do, if he were losing faith in the scam), but asking him to behave respectfully and put in some of the work instead of begging me for money18:32 - Yusuf to RupertOf course, I had not even mentioned any such form. So he does not understand my email, he is an illiterate boy from the village.18:46 - Yusuf to Rupert18:46 - Rupert to YusufRupert fails to acknowledge Yusuf at all, simply stating the facts of the case, and asking him to identify himself "Are you the sender of the receiver of the parcel?". In this way, the irregularity of Yusuf's situation is brought under the spotlight, because, of course, he is neither the sender nor the receiver. Also, the address given to the fake lad is an empty plot, it does not exist18:48 - Yusuf to Rupert18:51 - Yusuf to Rupert18:54 - Yusuf to Jeb18:54 - Rupert to YusufThe signature from Rupert appears in all of his emails from here forward, so, like the 'security code' which uniformly precedes Yusuf's emails to Jeb, it will be omitted19:03 - Yusuf to Rupert (from another account)Here is classic Yusuf, talking past me
19:07 - Rupert to YusufI hope you don't mind reading this (that he must verify his identity, before he can issue instructions to the company).Because you will read it again, and again, and again ...
19:07 - Yusuf to JebYusuf forwards to Jeb the record of his correspondence to Yusuf on several other occasions. These are omitted from this post, if they do not contain additional commentary from Yusuf.19:09 - Yusuf to RupertDid I not just tell you ?19:15 - Rupert to Yusuf I proposed that he could be a family member or business partner of Mr. Malinowski, in order to offer him a way out, and so that it would not be necessary for the sender (Jeb) to nominate a new Receiver. In this way, the scammer has to do all of the work.
19:21 - Rupert to Yusuf19:26 - Rupert to YusufI added this stipulation about the country of the photo ID, in order to force Yusuf to complete the BIP and send some trophies. The rest is plagiarised from Birlic19:30 - Yusuf to RupertCloser to where? Do you still not understand that because you have not confirmed your identity, you cannot issue directions to the company? Idiot fool19:31 - Yusuf to Rupert19:33 - Yusuf to Jeb19:43 - Yusuf to JebSays who ?19:46 - Yusuf to RupertImpatient bastard19:48 - Yusuf to JebNo, you haven't done your part, you idiot19:49 - Rupert to YusufThe text of the message was (again) plagiarised from Birlic in the recent saga of Rev. Jonas, and Jonas' pictures were attached. But many changes were made to the text, in every sentence, so that it could not be found by the scammer through a search engine.19:50 - Yusuf to RupertNot even a 'thank you' for this essay which Rupert obviously typed out longhand (given how long he was in responding)19:51 - Rupert to YusufAn obvious mistake by Rupert. He doesn't know that Jeb explained this (or did not explain it) over email - it could have been over the phone, or in person, or by any other method, since Rupert does not know the character of the relationship between Jeb and Yusuf.19:58 - Yusuf to RupertAn excerpt from Jeb's email sent nine hours earlier.
20:01 - Yusuf to JebNo, you haven't done your very best. Well ... maybe this is your very best.20:02 - Rupert to Yusuf20:04 - Yusuf to RupertTalking past me again, and he's probably too lazy to even go on safari, so I cannot pay him back ...20:08 - Rupert to Yusuf20:09 - Rupert to Yusuf20:12 - Yusuf to Rupert20:12 - Yusuf to RupertYou do not have a body, then, to complete the BIP ?20:13 - Rupert to Yusuf20:17 - Yusuf to Rupert20:19 - Rupert to Yusuf20:19 - Yusuf to Jeb20:20 - Yusuf to Jeb20:23 - Yusuf to RupertI don't know why he behaves like this. It's completely unnecessary, and it's certainly not endearing. All that he needs to say is that he doesn't intend to complete the BIP to confirm his identity, and he will have Jeb order the parcel to be sent back.20:24 - Yusuf to JebIs that how jokes work? Either you pay two thousand dollars, or you have made a joke?20:26 - Rupert to YusufYusuf is slapped, and told that all his efforts have been for nothing 20:43 - Yusuf to Jeb20:45 - Yusuf to RupertThis is certainly something ... Well, dead or alive, if you want to receive a high-value parcel, you must confirm your identity. Them's the rules. 21:16 - Yusuf to RupertWell, as long someone can move his hand, to sign the receipt ...Tuesday, 19th December, 202304:29 - Rupert to YusufFor Yusuf, now, the money is in sight. But by introducing this unnecessary element to the story ("Malinowski is dead"), when it was already explained to him very clearly that all he must do to be verified as the Receiver is complete the BIP, he has only created more work for himself.06:11 - Yusuf to RupertThe email contained no text, only this ridiculous forgery06:37 - Yusuf to Jeb06:38 - Rupert to Yusuf"Now that the confusion has passed, we can proceed on ..." We have not "proceeded" at all, because I am still asking Yusuf to complete the same task as yesterday. Hahahaha !This statement/trope "X caused the death/suicide of XYZ person/people. Now it is our/your turn to complete/study X." - I read it somewhere, several years ago, I think it was about a field of mathematics. But I could not resist employing it, for the comedic value, and also because it conveys that Yusuf's obligation to complete the BIP is final and inescapable.
07:59 - Yusuf to RupertHahahaha !!!!! This is really the most remarkable and beautiful quotation from a scammer about the BIP that I have seen, in a sentence, it encapsulates the absurdity of the supposed "procedure", and the frustration of the lads who must complete it. 08:18 - Rupert to YusufAnother slap for the scammer. The parcel is going to Accra, with or without him. But I don't know when or how I will give the news to him that it cannot leave Ghana ...08:44 - Yusuf to Rupert"Yes, but before the claim for damages can be acknowledged by the court, it is necessary to for the plaintiff to verify his identity biometrically, if he will not be present physically in court ..."08:49 - Rupert to YusufRupert does not even acknowledge his absurd threat, only the unimportance and repetitiveness of his emails08:50 - Yusuf to JebWell, here is the state of the bait. To be honest, I don't believe that he will be willing to go on safari, because he is simply too lazy, arrogant, and demanding, to realize that the world will not always bend to him if he repeats his demands enough times. At the very least, I will get him on the phone for a good old-fashioned MTCN reading.
|
|
|
Post by Birlic on Dec 19, 2023 21:38:03 GMT
^^^ Your scammer is lazy and an idiot, yeap, but that doesn't mean he can't be persuaded to travel. All you have to do is not give him the opportunity to "choose" and put him in the position of being forced to do something / or lose everything. As long as your character "negotiates", the scammer has the impression that he is the one who controls everything.
Here are my suggestions: - Jeb is of course outraged and offended by the fact that Yusuf seems to be an arrogant idiot, so he tells him: "Yusuf, I'm fucking done with this story. I'll let the package reach Ghana and ask the local branch there to find a orphanage to donate the content to... I'm going on vacation tomorrow and I'll be back in 2 weeks. I'm sorry, but our cooperation has ended here. Bye!"... and that's it! Stop responding to his messages and disappear! - The main character of your story will become mr. Rupert... he "receives instructions" from Jeb about the package. So, it is clear that the package will reach Ghana and that, if Yusuf does not take it, then it will be donated to a local orphanage. Rupert is tough and does not negotiate anything, because the Company's rules are extremely inflexible. The scammer can only accept / or refuse.
|
|
|
Post by Birlic on Dec 21, 2023 16:31:38 GMT
Thursday, December 21
16.21 (local time) - The parcel just reached Kotoka aiport premises, in Accra - Ghana. ===
Later edit: Tomorrow morning the parcel will be stored in the local TSC branch in Kumasi and will be prepared for delivery.
|
|
|
Post by Yastreb on Dec 21, 2023 21:07:30 GMT
^^ Kotoka Airport? That's not a good development! Hudlooms and fake diplomats run away from there with packages all the time; that's what General Musa, General Omo, General Zito, General Blay, General Crentsil, Air Marshal Kome and Air Marshal Blankson told me.
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 21, 2023 21:10:22 GMT
^^ Well, I've taken your suggestion (in fact, I emailed Jeb a few hours before your message, with much the same idea. But I didn't mention anything about a 'vacation', or about the donation to an orphanage. However, since Jeb has still "abandoned the story", the effect is the same: The parcel must remain in Ghana (to be collected by Yusuf or not), because Jeb has not paid the extra fee, which would be necessary for shipment further on to Nigeria.
As you will see, readers, the pace of the bait has declined from its second climax around the matter of the parcel (as contrasted with the first, around the interference of the fake lad Jovan/Emmanuel). The feverish pace of Monday evening has not continued, for reasons that are not obvious to me ... maybe Yusuf has been at the beer parlour with his bruddas all this time. Or maybe he is too stupid to understand that Jeb (as he stated VERY CLEARLY) has not recalled the parcel, but has left it in the custody of the shipping company, and STILL BELIEVES in the scam, and WANTS Yusuf to collect the parcel, so that he can pay the fees, and transfer the ten million (or whatever) to Jeb's account.
Tuesday, 19th December
13:04 - Jeb to Yusuf The end of the character Jebediah Goreman's involvement in the bait - at least for now. This simplifies things, because I will not have to regularly post emails from Yusuf with the same contents (begging for money and so on), and that I will no longer have the burden of writing long emails to the scammer guiding him through what he must do to receive his money, which he does not even read.
14:46 (Voice of Pricky:) The Home Office is in the UK, idiot. This is America, we have the State Department here. The idiot refers obliquely to his forgery of a death certificate for the non-existent Theodore Malinowski, and dismisses out of hand the possibility of collecting the parcel. Also, continues to doubt the validity of the perfectly normal and industry-wide best practice, the BIP-procedure
14:48 - Yusuf to Rupert
14:56 - Rupert to Yusuf I wanted to get the complete picture, just to make him work and frustrate whatever subterfuge he might have attempted, by conveying only a part of his ID-card to the shipping company. And, of course, to share it with the readers. Only then, when I had the complete picture, would I notice that the ID was not Ghanaian (and I had expressly stated before that this would be the only acceptable ID, as Ghana was the country of residence of the now-deceased Malinowski), and order him to complete the BIP-procedure.
17:50 - Yusuf to Jeb
21:01 - Yusuf to Rupert No, we would pay damages if we released the valuable parcel into the arms of any odd fellow, who would not even identify himself.
Wednesday, 20th December, 2023
04:27 - Rupert to Yusuf
04:28 - Yusuf to Jeb As you see, he rejects completely the possibility of going to Ghana to collect the parcel - or even verifying his identity, and then ordering the shipment of the parcel to Nigeria (which he does not yet know is impossible). I mean, all that he has to do is pose for some pictures, and he will receive thirty thousand dollars in cash, right to his doorstep. But he is too lazy, or too stupid, for this.
04:33 - Yusuf to Rupert No, the parcel will be delivered promptly to the non-existent residence of the dead and non-existent Mr. Malinowski, in compliance with the regulations of the Company.
04:40 - Rupert to Yusuf
Thursday, 21st December
09:35 - Rupert to Yusuf Now I am reduced to emailing him and asking whether he "wishes to continue the process". In many ways, I have become the scammer, and he has become the baiter.
13:41 - Yusuf to Rupert
14:04 - Rupert to Yusuf
Well, this is the most recent email from the bait. Yusuf will probably reply soon, and at the very least, we will get a meltdown from him, which he diligently types out for our understanding. He still refuses to go on safari, or even to deal further with the shipping company. I believe this is due mostly to his unambitious character and his defective intelligence, but is there anything that I could have done to make the bait more credible? As I say, at the very least, I will come crawling back to him as Jeb, and try to get him on the phone. But I don't think there's really much mileage in him for anything other than "please you send the money immediately ok". I won't raise this possibility for at least another few weeks though. My plan, currently, is for Rupert to reiterate to Yusuf that the parcel is in Ghana, in the custody of the shipping company, and that it will be held for thirty days, and so on. Then, he will see clearly (as Birlic has suggested) that the only option for him to receive payment is through collecting the parcel.
New emails from Yusuf:
15:00 - Yusuf to Rupert
15:03 - Yusuf to Jeb
15:06 - Rupert to Yusuf
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 22, 2023 0:26:27 GMT
15:15 - Yusuf to Rupert
15:19 - Rupert to Yusuf
15:23 - Yusuf to Rupert
15:23 - Rupert to Yusuf
15:29 - Yusuf to Rupert
15:33 - Rupert to Yusuf
15:30 CST is 22:30 in Lagos. So, he has probably signed off for the night. Tomorrow, the saga will continue- if necessary, the new character Kwame Edowka Odnabodo, the Ghanaian manager, will be introduced to the lad. In this way, a new conversation can begin between them on the basis of cordiality, friendship, and African brotherhood ...
|
|
|
Post by Birlic on Dec 22, 2023 8:21:58 GMT
Friday, December 22
08.16 (local ghanaian time) - From the TSC servers to Jeb: I hope it will be useful in your story. Success!
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 22, 2023 17:50:20 GMT
Thursday, 21st December
18:50 CST / 00:50 Accra / 01:50 Lagos - Rupert to KwameThis email was sent, and the entire conversation between Rupert and Mr. Daniels, was forwarded to Kwame, so that he will understand what has transpired so far. Later, it will be forwarded to the scammer Yusuf/Mr. Daniels.
20:10 - Yusuf to Rupert20:13 - Yusuf to Kwame 20:17 - Yusuf to RupertCompletely amazing! Only five hours after denying the existence of the shipping company, Yusuf in Nigeria sends a second picture of his ID to the customer service representative Rupert. I have begun uploading images from the bait to my newly-created Neocities website Goreman Baits. I think this is better for the longevity of the images - the policy of Imgur is to delete an image if it is not viewed for six months, but Neocities will host images indefinitely. (Of course, so will Discord, and Google, and many other places) 20:40 - Yusuf to Kwame20:48 - Yusuf to KwameYusuf has a habit of repeating his emails several times, and sometimes I omit them, when the contents are exactly the same. 20:51 - Yusuf to Kwame20:52 - Yusuf to RupertThat is correct. Or, it would be, if you would just put in a little effort ...Friday, 22nd December03:24 - Yusuf to KwameYusuf's favorite word "immediate" appears 105 times so far in the thread03:25 - Yusuf to Rupert03:30 - Yusuf to Jeb03:43 - Yusuf to Kwame03:44 - Yusuf to Rupert and Kwame08:13 CST / 14:13 Accra / 15:13 Lagos - Kwame to YusufThe signature, comprising the last three lines, will appear in all further emails from Kwame. As you see, Mr. Odnabodo offers several times to guide Yusuf around like a baby, and explains to him exactly what he must do (never mind that Rupert has explained already several times...) and that the Company's rules are inflexible. I think this is the beginning of a fruitful partnership. One detail, which I unfortunately neglected to mention, but which I will take any opportunity to clarify (as soon as Yusuf replies): it was not attempted yesterday (as should have been done) to deliver the parcel to Mr. Malinowski's residence in Accra, because the Company knows that he is dead, and because no one has been certified as the new receiver. So, the parcel could be handed over to anyone, even if there were someone present at his house. Therefore, the new 'deadline' for Yusuf is thirty days (starting from yesterday), after which, if Yusuf does not certify himself as Receiver and Jeb does not intervene, the parcel becomes the property of the Company. 09:16 - Rupert to YusufThis is how things have progressed so far: the parcel has left Accra and is now at the central warehouse in Kumasi. The parcel cannot leave Ghana, because Jeb is not around to pay for shipment to Nigeria (change in the destination). But once Yusuf verifies his identity through completing the BIP-procedure, he will be able to come to Ghana to collect the parcel. I am more hopeful now that he will do this, because he seems to believe again that the situation is completely real, that the company exists, and so on. And thirty thousand dollars is a lot of money - even if I am not able to offer (as in the bait of Reverend Jonas) the reimbursement of his travel expenses (because in Jonas' case, the delivery company, for some reason, was not able to operate in Nigeria at all, and therefore, customers from Nigeria who had to travel to collect their parcels were compensated for this, as the policy of the company. But because the failure to pay for onward shipment to Nigeria is entirely the fault of the Sender and/or the Receiver, the Company sees no reason to compensate for this.)
|
|
|
Post by jebediahgoreman on Dec 23, 2023 13:57:26 GMT
Saturday, 23rd December
00:56 - Yusuf to Kwame and Rupert I honestly think that he is baiting me now. Has anyone ever had this happen?
07:32 - Kwame to Yusuf
|
|