The good old Robert and Dr. Mark Nelson

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Post by Birlic on Nov 12, 2020 16:39:48 GMT

- I have a character (Robert Zalee) that I usually use only in short stories, which ends with phonecalls given to #Lenny and payments made through MoneyGram.

- For both modalities, I have to thank our colleague ScammingTheScammers. He did an excellent job and our mission is much easier.

- Robert is old and naive, easy to fool... he understands almost nothing of the messages received from scammers, so he asks to speak "directly, from man to man".

- Sometimes, if the scammer "promises", I take the story further and involve other characters: hackers, the church, etc.

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One of these scammers is Dr. Mark Nelson from Nigeria.
He received £ 480 through MoneyGram but failed to get that "magic number". Of course, he was completely unhappy.
Then the bank payment came in... a hacker (one of my other characters) took control of the old Robert's computer and changed the bank details... so, we also had a DollaChop.
My hacker tried to get the scammer to cooperate, but I was unsuccessful. The scammer tried to send "warning" messages to Robert, but the hacker deleted / modified them.

The scammer Nelson made another email address, but my hacker found out and acted accordingly.

The hacker made Robert believe that Mark Nelson is gay, so the old man is outraged and he doesn't want to do business with Nelson anymore.

Good Dr. Mark Nelson is really desperate and he has called and talked to Lenny 15 times so far!

All those conversations can be heard here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/18erNuDDKoX_uOOs4UzBcBiBMzzrBcoCz

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The scammer writes to Robert, the initial message:

Attention: Beneficiary

How are you doing today? Hope all is well with you and family? You may not understand why this mail came to you. We have been having a meeting for the past Seven months which ended 3 days ago with the secretary to the UNITED NATIONS, Mr. Antonio Guterres.

This email is to all the people that have been scammed or extorted money from because of your contract payment execution or whatever in any part of the world, the UNITED NATIONS have agreed to compensate them with the sum of US$1.200, 000.00 each.

This includes every foreign contractors that may have not received their contract Sum and people that have had an unfinished transaction or international businesses that failed in the past due to Government problems or irregularities etc.

We found your name in our list and that is why we are contacting you, and this has been agreed upon and has been signed by the United Nations Board of Directors and Trustees. However, it is our pleasure to inform you that your ATM Card Number; 6890 9657 6402 4376 has been approved and upgraded in your favor.
Meanwhile, your Secret Pin Number will be made available to you as soon as you confirm the receipt of your ATM CARD in your care. The ATM Card Valued is US$1.200, 000.00 only, and your maximum daily withdrawal is US$10,000.00 as programmed.

You are hereby advice to contact Dr. Mark Nelson, our payment agent in Nigeria for issuance of your ATM Card and for immediate delivery as soon as possible.

You should send to him the following:
Full Name and Address,

Current occupation for file reconciliation and Telephone number/your correct mailing address where you want your ATM card sent to.

You are to contact him on the address below:
Person to Contact: Dr. Mark Nelson
Email: << snipped >>

Thanks and God bless you and your family. Hoping to hear from you as soon as you successfully receive your payment. Making the world a better place.
Regards,
Mr. Carlos Montero.

Robert, so innocent:

I don't want to upset you, but I didn't understand almost anything in your message. It's too long and too complicated for me. My name is Robert Zalee and I'm a World War Veteran. I am 92 years old and live in Liverpool UK with my brother Leonard (Lenny). He, at his 81, is much younger and takes care of me. I think I would love to talk to you on the phone, because things get much better when two people talk directly. Do you think it's possible to talk with me and explain all of these complicated things? Our house phone number is +44LENNY. Robert

Dear Dr. Nelson has no patience, so he asks for the usual data:

You should send to me the following:
Full Name and your current Address,
Current occupation for file reconciliation and current Telephone number/your correct mailing address where you want your ATM card sent to.

My old Robert he is distrustful and asks to talk on the phone:

Please carefully read my previous email, ok? I would like to talk with you on the phone, because I do not trust anyone on the Internet. Please call me now, because if I need to make any payment I will only make it after I consider our discussion satisfactory. Robert

The scammer is not impressed by Robert's request and tries to stay in his script:

I received your mail Sir and I understand you, as you can see that your name is among the people that we are instructed by United Nation to compensate with the sum of US$1.200, 000.00, ATM Card Number; 6890 9657 6402 4376 has been approved and upgraded in your favor, I needed your full name and your current address of where to deliver your ATM Card to you and the pin will be release to you after when you have receive your ATM Card to enable you start withdrawing $10,000 per a day, is like you want to speak with me on phone and you can reach me with this number +234812975****.

Robert is stubborn, like any other old man:

My dear, the elementary politeness rules in business say that you have to call me and explain all this complicated business to me. For God's sake, I'm 92 years old and I understand only half of the terms that you use in your previous message. On the other hand, we only have a landline and we cannot initiate international calls. I should go to the Post Office for this, and outside here it is terribly cold and it is raining heavily. I would prefer to stay at the shelter of my house. Thanks. Robert

Dr. Mark Nelson does not consider it necessary to talk to the old Robert:

I received your mail and understand you, as you can see that I have explain everything to you here, but if you have another question to ask then you are free to ask and I am here to answer you and if you want to speak with me you have a phone number to call me, as you can see that you are the one who wanted to speak with me then you have to call me, but if I am the one who want to speak with you then I will be the one to call you, I hope you understand, just let me have the needed information of where your ATM Card will deliver to you.

My old Robert gave an ultimatum:

Ok, your answer makes me think you're not serious and you're probably just a kid making jokes on the internet. Please do not keep writing me messages, because I am no longer interested in doing business with you. Goodbye! Robert

That was when Nelson first called and talked to Lenny.

Following that phone call, Robert wrote him an encouraging message.

My brother Lenny just told me that someone from Africa called and wanted to talk to me and the quality of the phone call was weak and the conversation didn't sound very good. But he still noted the bank account in which I have to pay the £ 2,000. Have you been that one? He didn't understand anything. You said what was your name when you talked to him? You can come back with another phone call? I'm ready to pay. Thanks, Robert

Nelson "took courage" and, confidently, sent his payment details... He demanded £ 480:

I am the one that just called you and is about your ATM Card, as you can see that we needed delivery fee of 480 pounds to deliver your ATM Card to you after you have receive your ATM Card the pin will be release to you to enable you start withdrawing $10,000 per a day, all you will do is to do more of your best to send the delivery fee of 480 pounds through Western Union or Ria Money Transfer with the information below:

FIRST NAME: DANIEL.
SURNAME: O****.
CITY: LAGOS.
COUNTRY: LAGOS.

Send the payment information through attachment when you have send the 480 pounds and with this fee your ATM Card will deliver to you without any delay.

Of course I sent him the money, with a copy of the receipt attached to the message.

Dear Sir, good morning! I made the payment as you specified in your previous message.
Sender's name: Robert Zalee
Sender's address: #*****, Oak Lane, Liverpool, UK
Amount: 480 GBP
Transfer type: MoneyGram Service
Receiver's name: Mr. Daniel O****
Receiver's address: Lagos, Nigeria
I opted for the MoneyGram Transaction Security procedure, because the desk officer warned me that there are many electronic frauds on the internet. You need to call the MoneyGram Call Center and get your MTCN. The phone number of the Call Center is: +1MONEYGRAM. You must call them and provide all the payment details (total amount, my name, your name and address etc.), and then you will receive your MTCN number. Please tell me what's the next steps. Robert

Of course, the scammer wasted his time and money listening to STS's robot. Then he contacted MoneyGram in Nigeria, and they laughed at him.

A completely dissatisfied Nelson wrote to old Robert:

I received your mail and I have never see this money gram method before, I am trying to call the number to collect the MTCN as you instructed but it was in answering machine, so I have to contact money gram here to ask them but they made me to understand that it is not possible that they cannot send money and tell the receiver to call them for the MTCN. So you have to go to the money gram to make it where it will be easy to receive the fee, as you can see that you are the only holding everything, as soon as I receive the fee in order to make the payment to the delivery company for your ATM Card to deliver to you as soon as possible, I don’t like this money gram system of receiving money from them, you can resend the fee through Western Union or Ria Money Transfer, please you have to act fast to enable us to conclude before the end of the week.

I explained to him that I could not withdraw the money immediately and that the deadline was 14 days:

Dear Sir, have you seen what the payment receipt looks like? I already asked at the counter if I could get that MTCN number directly there, and they said no. As a security measure, only the phone calls from the country corresponding to the address are accepted. In this case, for the payment of those money, will be accepted only the calls made by telephone prefix of Nigeria (because there lives the beneficiary Mr. Daniel O****). So, to get that MTCN number, you need to call from Nigeria. That's the security precaution! I can only recover the money after 14 days (in case you do not withdraw it). Robert

He made another attempt to obtain the transaction control number. As I expected, also this last attempt was unsuccessful.

Nelson is so sad.

I received your mail and I have tried to reach them the phone is always in answering machine, all I will advice you is to look for another fee in order to send it through Western Union or Ria Money transfer to conclude as soon as possible, then you will go to the money gram to collect the money back, tell them that the receiver cannot get them on phone that their phone is always in answering machine, this is what you will do in order to conclude as soon as possible, this method of money gram is not fair, everything suppose to be in the payment receipt.

Old Robert wants to solve the problem:

I'll go back to them tomorrow morning and try to talk to someone in the office. Robert

The scammer, full of hope:

I will be waiting to receive the fee by tomorrow through Western Union or Ria Money Transfer in order to conclude as soon as possible.

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The next week I tried to persuade him to fill out some "security forms" that would have allowed old Robert to withdraw the money before the deadline.
Unfortunately, Nelson's laziness was greater than his greed.
We move on to the next stage of the story... where other scammers get involved in the business and old Robert begins to have doubts.

Robert, to the scammer:

OK, I understand your attitude and I'm honestly not at all happy with the way you treat me. I will listen to the advice received from Governor Godwin Emefiele from the National Bank of Nigeria and I will stop working with you. He confirmed to me that there are many cyber impostors and recommended that I immediately cease any collaboration with anyone other than him. He wants to help me get my money back from MoneyGram and has confirmed that he will fill out and send me those forms by tomorrow at the latest. Robert

Nelson gets nervous when he realizes that another scammer is ready to steal his client.

I received your mail and is now I understand what is going on, you went to fake Money Gram to send the fee, that is the reason why no MTCN to receive the money by the receiver, everything is fake and you are going to see it at the end of everything, please you should not mind the person claiming Governor Godwin Emefiele in order to deceive you, please you can google the real Governor Godwin Emefiele to find out the real one, never allow anybody to deceive you, just let me know of when to send the needed fee for your ATM Card to deliver to you.

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How are you today Mr. Robert hope fine and I believe you receive the mail I send to you and one thing you should understand is that I am not here to scam you or to deceive you, as you can see that you are grandfather and I have taken you as my father, Sir, where you went to send the 480 pounds through Money Gram is a wrong and fake Money Gram, you can see it on google when you google it, so I will advice you to look for another 480 pounds to send through Western Union to receive your ATM Card, there is no way that Money Gram will refund you the 480 rather they will be collecting more money from you, so the best thing is to forget about it, with another 480 pounds send through Western Union you will receive your ATM Card loaded $1.2M, all you needed is to send the delivery fee of 480 pounds for your ATM Card to deliver to you after you have receive the Card the pin will be release to you to enable you start withdrawing $10, 000 per a day, please Sir make sure you go to the real Western Union office to send the delivery fee of 480 pounds and below is the information to send it:

FIRST NAME: DANIEL.
SURNAME: O****.
CITY: LAGOS.
COUNTRY: LAGOS. Send the payment information through attachment as soon as you send it, again attached file is my passport for you to know the person you are dealing with.

Old Robert doesn't believe anything.

I don't believe any of your words because Governor Emefiele has already told me that you will try to deny it. The fact that you refused to help me get my money back and now you are asking me for more money is proof that you are a fraud star.

Nelson has a lot of patience, because he hopes to get the money from the naive old man.

Sir, to be honest with you what you and the Money Gram is requesting is never done anywhere, you send money to someone and the person did not receive the money because the Money Gram refuse to release MTCN to receive the money by the receiver, so after everything you wanted your money back from the Money Gram and they give you about 4 forms to give the receiver to fill and return them back before your money will be given back to you, as you can see that Money Gram has no business with me in the first place, is you that the Money Gram has business with and they have to conclude everything with you not me, nothing concern me about it, Sir this thing that I am telling you here you have to ask another person the person will still tell you the same thing, please you have to go back to the Money Gram office to collect your money back, again is not that I am asking more money, the money you send did not get to me then how come that you are saying I am asking for more money, I am requesting for the delivery fee because the one you send did not get to me, you have to take it back Ok, one thing I will tell you is that you should not allow anyone to deceive you, please you have to try your possible best to send the delivery fee of 480 pounds for your ATM Card to deliver to you, as you can that this is all it takes to receive your ATM Card, just let me know of when to send the delivery fee of 480 pounds for your ATM Card to deliver to you, I wait to hear from you as soon as you read this mail, please I am not here to scam you or to deceive you God forbid bad thing.

My old Robert:

I do not understand what you mean. Do you think the nice young nigerian cashier at MoneyGram is an impostor and he stole my money? Please be more explicit in your messages because I am a little confused by Alzheimer's drugs and often forget many details. Thanks. Robert

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A few more boring days followed, in which Nelson tried to persuade Robert to send the £ 480 by another quick payment method.

I decided to introduce another character into the story: the hacker Obi.

My old Robert is forwarding to Nelson a message received from someone named Obi Ofelaso and referring to a 10,000 USD bank payment.

Dear Barrister Obi Ofelaso. I acknowledge your email. I have a meeting with one of my old army comrades and immediately after our lunch I will go to the bank and pay the commission. I already gave my phone number to Director Mark Nelson. Please ask him to give you my phone number as you work together. Kind Regards, Robert

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: OBI OFELASO <snipped>
Date: Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 12:42 PM
Subject: YOUR TRANSFER PAYMENT DETAILS
To: Robert Zalee <snipped>

Robert Zalee

This is Barrister Obi Ofelaso. I'm working with Director MARK NELSON on your funds.
Director MARK NELSON asked me to inform you that you have to make a Bank Transfer. It is about 10,000 dollars fee for Afidavit documents.
I have included account details for it. Please acknowledge my email and provide me your phone number for better communications.

BANK NAME: GUARANTY TRUST BANK PLC.
BENEFICIARY NAME:AMA**** C.GRACE
AMOUNT: 10,000 USD
ACCOUNT NO#:024459****
SWLFT CODE:GTBINGLA
BANK ADDRESS:AKIN ADESOLA STREET VICTORIA ISLAND LAGOS
BENEFICIARY ADDRESS:**** ABAYOMI APAPA LAGOS.

Barrister OBI OFELASO
Western Onion Central Headquarter
Lagos / Nigeria

My idiot understood what was happening and went into panic mode.

I received your mail and the forwarded mail from Obi Ofelaso, please I don't know Barr. Obi Ofelaso from nowhere and I am not working with him, please you have to be very careful with him before he scammed you, never you send any money with the bank account given to you, I don't know him and I have never meet him before or do anything with him, so please you have to be very careful with him and never you release your phone number to him, the only person you are instructed to deal with is Nancy Henshew and she is going to contact you with the bank details to send the amount, please never you send any money to Barr. Obi Ofelaso because I don't know him and I am not working with him, what he said is not true.

This message was repeated, in similar forms, for 2 days ... Robert was silent and did not respond.
On the third day, Robert writes to Nelson:

I don't understand anything anymore and I already feel like I'm losing patience with you. I have paid twice so far, and you come every time and tell me that everything is a mistake and that I have to make another payment. It is unacceptable and I do not believe a word from you until I am convinced that everything is legitimate and real. I just have the feeling that someone is playing with me and stealing my money. Immediately after you told me to pay the money into that person's (Ama**** Grace) bank account, you came back with other stupid messages indicating another bank account and another person. Are you crazy, or are you kidding me? I am extremely upset and nervous, because I lost $ 10,000 and 480 pounds in the 2 payments made so far. I will definitely not repeat this mistake. Robert

Nelson, very panicked:

I received your mail and you should not be confuse, all you will do right away is to go to the bank first thing tomorrow morning to call the money back, henceforth you have to get instruction from me before getting back to anyone, never to follow any instruction from anybody until I confirm it and tell you to go ahead in dealing with the person, this is what you will do in order not to make any mistake again but one thing I will promise you is that with your full co-operation with me everything will be concluded soon, just go to the bank first thing tomorrow morning to call the money you send to Barr. Obi Ofelaso back immediately, the only person you have right to co-operate with is Nancy Henshew, forward to me any mail you receive from any one before replying to the person, I am given you this advice in order not to make mistake again and with your full co-operation with me everything will be conclude as soon as possible.

Meanwhile, my fake hacker Obi tried to convince Nelson that the two of them should work together and steal the old man's money. Without success!

Then, Obi started deleting / modifying Nelson's messages so that Robert could receive other completely different messages.

So, Robert writes to Nelson AND Obi

Dear my son, I made the payment today as you requested, so everything is fine now. I am waiting for you or your partner Mr. Obi Ofelaso to give me the necessary details for the next steps we have to take. Thanks. Robert

Nelson to Robert... the scammer is very upset:

Sir, please you should stop sending copy of your mail to me to Barrister Obi Ofelaso, I don't know him from anywhere, he is not my partner, all you needed to do is to go to the bank this morning in order to call the money back and you will use the bank account details send to you by Nancy Henshew to send the fee and after you have send it then she will direct you on the next step to receive your fund, again I will like to have the payment you use to send the money to Barrister Obi Ofelaso.

Of course, Obi deleted that warning message from the computer, so Robert continued in the same tone.

I was informed by the bank that the money was collected, but I have not yet received any answer from you. Please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks. Robert

The first dollachop was made successfully. Obi took those $ 10,000 and he controls the old man's computer.

Two days later, Robert agreed to pay another $ 3,800. He wrote to Obi and Nelson.

Son, all these events made me very confused and scared. I think my blood pressure has also increased a lot, because I'm dizzy and my head hurts.
OK, I believe in your words and I will pay those $ 3,800 tomorrow morning as soon as the bank opens. Tomorrow is Friday and we have our weekly BINGO meeting at the senior club, so I will try to make the payment before the meeting with my friends. I hope everything is fine this time. Good evening! Robert

The scammer went into a state of extreme nervousness and sent many similar messages containing the data of another bank account.

He probably couldn't believe how easily he could lose "a rich and naive customer."

I don't know why everything is going in this way and you are advice to send the fee with the bank account details below:

ACCOUNT NAME: DANIEL MAGDALENE A****.
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 212526****.
SWIFT CODE: UNAFNGLA.
SORT CODE: 033152967.
BANK NAME: UNITED BANK FOR AFRICA (UBA).
BANK ADDRESS: NO: 168 ALAKIJA STREET OFF FESTAC, LAGOS NIGERIA.

Send the payment slip through attachment as soon as you send it.

His messages went unanswered.

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Obi (my fake hacker) contacted Nelson again and told him everything that was happening.

ma littel frend am thougt yu undestoond well well dhat am control robert computa an he read only what am leave in hiz inbox ok ??
yur massaj above has been alredy deletd an he wil no see it nevar oooohhhh
if yu wanna coperate with me we wil both make guud monies
robert is una old senil man but he iz memba of una rich church dhat send big moni in africa to parishes
if yu wanna coperate am wil explain to yu ma scheme an we wil be parteneres ok ??
we wil share ol da monies stolen fo da churche idiots

Immediately Nelson made another new fresh email address and wrote to Robert.

Sir please can you explain to me of what is happening and I have been writing to you without you getting back to me, does it mean that you did not receive the mail or you decided not to get back to me, please you should let me know your mind over this transaction because I cannot understand you anymore and can’t understand what is going on, just get back to me as soon as you read this mail.

I made the decision to try to annoy him even more, so Robert wrote to Nelson.

Son, it is very simple; your partner barrister Ofelaso Obi told me that you are a real homosexualist and I am a good Catholic and a man who believes in the holy relationship between men and women, as God left it. Under these conditions, I do not want to associate my name with a homosexual with deviant behavior. You will burn in the flames of Hell for your sodomy and you will never see Heaven! I don't understand why a man as kind and polite as mr. Obi was able to associate with someone who disregards God's commandments and loves to be sodomized. As I have already said, I do not want to do business with you and I will only continue the collaboration with mr. Obi. Please don't write to me anymore! Be blessed and repent of your sins! Robert

Nelson tries to deny and explain everything:

I received your mail and please you should not mind him, to be honest with you I don’t know him and never meet him before, I am real Christian and believe in God, and how someone can lie against his follow human being is a sin before God, how can I be homosexual God forbid bad thing, I leave everything for God, God is going to judge him for lying against me, please never you believe him, I believe in God. The advice I will give you is to open a new email address and use it to write me, Mr. Obi is having the password of this your email address and he used to write to me from your box and also used to delete my mails to you for you not to read it, he want you to be reading only his own email, to avoid him not to know about our communication, so you have to create a new email address in order to use it to be writing to me only, please you should not allow him to know about the new email in order not to hack it, so I will be waiting to hear from you on your new email address you have create or you have open.

and

I believe you receive the mail I send to you and I am still waiting to hear from you to know your mind over your fund.

Robert to Nelson:

Sir, I have already said that I am a faithful man and do not want to come into contact with drugged homosexuals. I received your message and I appreciated the fact that you confessed your sins, but that does not make me change my mind. The barrister Ofalasi told me that he fired you and I congratulated him, because people with shameful behavior do not deserve to participate in my business. You could repent and confess your sins to a priest. Maybe you will receive God's forgiveness and maybe the doors of Heaven are not completely closed for you. Be blessed! Robert

Nelson begins to understand nothing:

I am not 100% sure that you are the one Mr. Robert is writing this mail to me because I know how your mails used to be, whosoever acting this will never go unpunished, just mark it somewhere, if you are real Mr. Robert then you have to call me for me to believe you while not you cannot call this is to proof that you are not real Mr. Robert, you are nothing but a hacker, your job is to hack people's email and from there you write rubbish for the person to believe is the person he is deal with, I really know your trick and you have to proof to me that you are real Mr. Robert.

Robert, 100% innocent:

I don't think I understand exactly what you mean, but to clear up any misunderstandings you can call me at my phone number +44LENNY and talk to me. I have nothing to hide and I don't think I have to justify my actions in front of you. So, I'm waiting for your phone and we'll clarify everything. Thanks. Robert

Well, Nelson really tried to explain to Robert what the truth is about his sexual orientation ... 15 phone calls to Lenny!!!

End of story? We will see!

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Post by Birlic on Nov 13, 2020 8:19:43 GMT

The story does not seem to end here.

Perhaps the good Dr. Nelson wants to spread the seeds of faith in the Holy Lamb in Africa?

We will see in the next few days.

I sent a message to him, from my Chancellor Ed... in response to a hypothetical scam email I would have received.

Dear my son,

Maybe my first message wasn't very clear, so I repeat. Our church does not need money, nor does it do business with people who are not part of our large community. As is normal and human, in these difficult times of the world pandemic we want to offer joy and help to those who are orphaned and poor.

Please help me get in touch with a local orphanage, so that together we can organize a charity event. We have a small budget of $10,000 with which we will buy electronic products that are necessary for the orphanage to function: phones, laptops, printers, etc. We will buy all the products and send them there, with a fast courier company. We will pay all the necessary costs so that the children enjoy the gifts as soon as possible. Together with our dear traditional sponsors, we will seek to offer also a small bonification (maximum $15,000) in cash.

I need a person to be in charge of this project, to collaborate with our church secretary.
Be blessed, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed
Chancellor of the Church of the Holy Lamb

Obviously, the scammer tried to answer in that fucking script that he usually uses it:

You should send to me the following:
Full Name and your current Address,
Current occupation for file reconciliation and current Telephone number/your correct mailing address where you want your ATM card sent to.

Reverend Ed:

Son, tell me if you read my message and if you understood what I told you. Our church does not need additional funds, because our sponsors ensure the full operating budget. We are looking for people with the Faith, hardworking and honest to help us spread the seeds of the Faith in Africa. We already have branches in several African countries and we are looking to expand. We are also looking to help orphaned children.

The Faith is not something that is learned in school, but something you are born with. Please tell me if you are a Christian man and believe in God. Our church is a Christian Church, and we believe that Jesus is that Holy Lamb who sacrificed on the Cross for the sins of humanity. We are trying to follow His Path, His Truth and His Faith.

If you are really a Christian man, if you want to be with us, if you feel that the Call is strong in your soul and if you think you could be our local Reverend there, then we can discuss it in detail. Please, think very well and do not rush! The Faith is something you choose to share with your brothers and sisters! You will have the opportunity to be our representative and you will have to take care of all your sheep there. There will be both responsibilities but also some spiritual and material benefits (monthly salary and spending budget for the Parish).

Be blessed!
Glory to the Holy Lamb, glory to Jesus!
Rev. Ed

The scammer Nelson understood what he had to do, so he immediately forgot the original story with the ATM card and the millions of dollars

... it seems that Dr. Nelson is still a good Christian and that he wants to help the church.

I received your mail and I am very sorry of getting back to you late, I am taking my time to think about it and I can tell you now that I am a christian and also believe in God as you asked and also ready to carry out the task, before anything I will like to know you more, I will like to have your full name and address, your current cell phone together with your passport, then what is the next thing to do in order to start.

Reverend Ed explains in a few words what the philosophy of the church is and what the activity of Reverend entails. Generous sponsorships, packages with electronic equipment, monthly salaries and bonuses are mentioned.

Usually, this is the time when scammers accept / refuse to work with us.

Dear my son, dear Nelson, God bless you!
Can I tell you on your name Nelson? I hope so.

I feel an enormous joy when I read your words, especially as I recognize in them the seed of Faith and I can see with the mind's eye how from that seed can grow the Tree of Knowledge. Our Savior Jesus willingly climbed the Cross, wanting to take on his shoulders all the burden of mankind's sins; so do we with those around us. We help them, we defend them, we offer them support and protection. God help us!

Let me tell you that we are a Christian Church, we believe in God Almighty and we think Jesus is the Son of God. Our main headquarters is in Aberdeen (UK) and we have few branches in America, Canada, Europe and Africa. We do charity and support especially the orphans and the homeless. All of our religious, cultural and charity actions can be watched on our church website.

I am Reverend Ed MacDonald and I work for The Lord as Chancellor of this Holy Church; the leadership of our entire community is provided by His Excellency The Great Cardinal Eufrosie, God bless Him! The secret dream of His Excellency Cardinal Eufrosieis to succeed in building an African Cathedral, from which we can start evangelizing all the poor people in entire african continent. We already have a small parish in Mozambique and another in Senegal, but we want to find a man dedicated to the Faith on which we can rely and who will become our future BOA (Bishop of Africa).

Son, if Faith is strong in your heart and if you have some trustworthy people around you who want to follow you, then we are willing to give you the chance to become our new Reverend and to establish our new Parish. It is a huge responsibility, which comes with benefits as well as obligations. If you accept this important task, then you and your people must become members of our community and be baptized in the sacred spirit of the Holy Lamb. The Admission Process is something formal, but it must be done according to our Sacred Rules. The secretary of the church will assist you throughout the entire process and it will explain all the necessary steps, so that it will be easy for you to understand what the requirements are.

Your final Baptism Ceremony is equivalent to the official recognition of the existence of your new Parish and your appointment as Local Reverend. The development and charity budget as well as the monthly salaries for you and your assistants will be discussed immediately after graduation. Also, usually an installation bonus is offered for the Reverend (for the proper equipping of the parish with all the necessary equipment - computers, telephones, printers, etc. and for purchasing all the necessary materials for the daily activity). But all these are just minor details that will be treated separately, immediately after the final Baptism Ceremony.

At the same time, we will ask you to help us identify an orphanage or a poor community that we can help by sending a Package of Courtesy containing various necessary electronic equipment: mobilephones, laptops, TVs, etc. and a small amount of money. as sponsorship. As soon as your parish becomes operational, you will be able to coordinate these Charities directly as our representative.

In concluding this long message, I want to ask you one thing: Do you think you can be that providential man our Congregation needs in Africa? Do you feel the Call of Faith in you? Think well and talk to all those around you about this responsibility; you don't have to give me the answer right now. Look into your soul and find the answer there!

Be blessed, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed

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2 days later, my scammer is still silent... so, the old chancellor of the church writes another email:

Son, your silence over the last few days makes me think you may not be the man we need there. We will look for another hardworking and honest man who will be able to lead our religious and charitable operations in Africa. The Council of Elders discussed and approved the budget for charitable Christmas expenses and we will try to find someone who wants to be actively involved in organizing our new parish.

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The idiot did not want to cooperate with the Church, so my last message went unanswered.
At the same time, he tried again to contact my old character Robert... from his new email address (protonmail) he wrote:

I am still waiting to hear from you in order to conclude before the end of the year, as you can see that the year is coming to an end and we need to conclude as soon as possible, I wait to hear from you in order to know the next thing to do.

Of course, Robert maintained its initial position on refusing to work with drugged homosexuals.

I have nothing to talk to homosexuals who take drugs and sell their bodies for money. Stop writing to me! Robert

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Half an hour later, Chancellor Ed received a "suspicious" message from an similar email address (protonmail). This time, it is about a widow with 6 sick children, full of piety and faith. Is it just a happy coincidence, or is our scammer Nelson trying again? We will see in the following messages.

The name of the email address is God Is My Shepherd Psalm 23

Calvary greetings Reverend Ed,

My name is Mrs. Oparaku Chinwendu Emmanuela, I'm a widow with Six (6) Children my eldest child is 14 years and the youngest one is 2+ years old, I used to work in a mini production factory to feed my family but I lost my job during this Covid-19 and since four months now I have no other job, no food for my family and my children has been sent out from school due to my inability to pay their school fees. My first child has been diagnosed Leukemia and no money for the treatment, I have finished leaning how to Swallowing cloth but I don't have money to rent for shop and buy machines. I'm a devoted Christen that baptize with the blood of Jesus Christ and am happy to do the work of God.

Please am solicit for your help in any way you can assist me and my family I will be forever grateful and God Almighty and Jesus Christ who sacrificed himself on the cross for our salvation and whom I believe and trusted will continue bless you and enrich you and the congregation abundantly. Thanks...

I look forward to hear from you.

Mrs. Oparaku

Of course, the Chancellor is confused and asks for clarification:

My daughter, I receive dozens of such messages every day and I can't always respond positively to all of them. Please give me more details about you. Where do you live?

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

The "widow":

Calvary greetings Reverend Ed,

My Father in the Lord, sorry I didn't include my address in the letter. I live in a suburb in Imo State Nigeria, African. I will appreciate in any way you can assist my family. Thanks...

I look forward to hear from you.

God Bless you

Mrs. Oparaku

The Chancellor Ed:

My dear, we have an expansion program that includes Nigeria. We also do charity work and help local orphanages. Do you know any hardworking and honest man who wants to take over the responsibility of setting up a new parish, there in your village? He must be a Christian, diligent, and have a few people around him who believe in him and are willing to follow the Way of the Lord.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

The "widow":

Calvary greetings Reverend Ed,

My Father in the Lord, Yes I have a pastor who is a devoted Christian and he have a large member that follow him, he is hardworking and honest man and he will be willing to take up responsibility of setting up a new parish.

I look forward to hear from you.

God Bless you
Mrs. Oparaku

Rev. Ed:

Tell him to look at our church's website to understand what kind of religious activities and charities we do. Then, if he wants to become our Reverend in Nigeria, please give him my email address and he will write to me. I will make sure to remember you and tell him to put you on the shortlist for sponsorship.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

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I believe 99% that this is our scammer Nelson.
- the fact that the "widow" appeared from the deep blue, directly on the email address of the Reverend Ed.

- the absolutely ridiculous name of his email address "God Is My Shepherd Psalm 23"

- the fact that they both use protonmail (after Nelson was forced to abandon his original email address - yahoo - because of "my hacker" Obi).

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I have nothing to talk to homosexuals who take drugs and sell their bodies for money. Stop writing to me! Robert

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The "widow" wrote again to father Ed:

Calvary greetings Reverend Ed,

OK, give me the church website so I can forward it to him. Send the website here.

I look forward to hear from you.

God Bless you
Mrs. Oparaku

Yes, we are delighted to show our activities... so:

<< THE CHURCH OF THE HOLY LAMB >>

This is our church's website, and I will be more than happy to discuss all the details with a man of the Lord.
Please give him my email address and tell him to contact me on your behalf.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

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	YOU ARE A INGE-AT AND A MAD MAN STOP CONTACT ME. YOU ARE THE WORST FOOL I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MYLIFE IDIOT OU ARE AN IDIOT A BIG FOOL YOU ARE YOU DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR FATHER THAT IS WHY I DECIDED TO DO AWAY WITH YOU FUCKING BASTARD LIKE YOU x 4 (Lagos to Abuja, Nigeria to Ghana, Nigeria to Benin, Ghana to Benin)

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^^^ Yeah, it looks like this idiot is having a lot of fun talking to our old Lenny. I'm still surprised, because it's the 16th time he's talked to Lenny and he still hasn't noticed that the sentences are repeated. That says a lot about our dear Dr. Nelson.

Yesterday, after verifying the authenticity of the church (with the help of his additional account - "the widow"), Nelson returned with an email to Chancellor Ed:

Please is not that I am not interested, I am fully interested and ready to do the work of God but you should please let me have your cell phone of where to reach you direct, I really want to speak with you.

I don't talk on the phone with scammers, so this story will probably end here.

However, I answered accordingly:

Son,
I don't think you understand the importance of our work, and I don't think you understand anything even now. The way you treated this issue made me understand that you are not the right person for our purposes, so we approved the sponsorship of a Ghanaian orphanage and decided to look for another person who could be appointed as our representative in Nigeria. It seems that you did not want or could not assume this responsibility. Do you think that I have time to talk by telephone with all the people who want to join our Congregation? Is that what you think is my duty?

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

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Today - 09.20 local time

Rev. Ed writes directly to the "widow":

My dear, God bless you!
Let me tell you that next week the works of the Council of Elders begin and on the list of topics is also the situation of the budgets destined for our new parishes. If your proposed local Reverend wants to receive sponsorship this year, it would be a good time for him to introduce himself and start the concrete discussions with our Church Secretary. Otherwise, the next meeting for external financing will be at the end of January 2021.

I was really impressed by your special situation and I want to be able to help you, but we need collaboration and cooperation from the one you consider worthy of being our representative there.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

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2 hours later

Obviously, the scammer doesn't want to do anything, hoping to get some easy "free" money.

The "widow" responds to father Ed:

Calvary greetings Reverend Ed,

Thank you for your mail, I have given him the Church website and he promised to contact you soon. Rev. Ed please I asked for your help no matter how small it is I and my children have not eaten food since yesterday because I have no money to buy food stuffs. I will appreciate and forever remain grateful.

I look forward to hear from you.

God Bless you
Mrs. Oparaku

Nothing is free in this world

, so our idiot has to work if he wants the Church to be actively involved in sponsorship.

Father Ed:

My dear,
I promise you that you will be the first person on the list with whom we will send personalized help. Of course, that reverend of yours will need to be active and cooperative, because we are not allowed to do business with people who are not members of the Congregation or with those of another Faith. You are a Christian, so the formalities will be extremely simple, but for that we need that representative who will be able to coordinate the entire sponsorship activity and who will share everything to all those who need it.

What's that Reverend's name? To pay attention to his messages.
I receive dozens of messages every day and I would not want to miss the one I received from you.
Blessings,
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Unfortunately, the scammer Nelson insisted on that phone call:

I need your data to verify first before any other thing, I can send you SMS to you, is not that I will call or whatever Ok, I want to be sure of everything Ok.

Reverend Ed to our scammer:

Son,

I don't understand WHAT the data is about and I don't understand the insistence with which you try to convince me to talk to you. Basically, it seems that you do not want to be actively involved in our religious and charitable activities, and I have told you extremely clearly that we do not do business with people who are not members of the Congregation.

So, concretely, tell me what you want from me, because my time is limited and I have a lot of messages that I have to answer daily.
Blessings,
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Well, it looks like we need a male voice to impersonate the old Chancellor Ed. Can you help us?
- he insists on talking to Chancellor Ed,
- it is about the establishment of a new parish of the church and about the promised aids for a local orphanage.
- all you have to do is encourage him and talk to him about "the holy faith and the noble mission of spreading the words of the Lord."

If you could start a short phone conversation with this idiot, then maybe the story could go on.

Thanks!

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Mr. Pricky agreed to help us with the telephone personification of Chancellor Ed MacDonald, so i've just sent another "poke" message to Nelson.

Son,
You did not reply to my message and this is a sign of rudeness. I don't like this and I consider it a negative point in your personal characterization. Before I give you the opportunity to talk to me, it would be useful for you to answer my questions in the previous message. I told you that I am extremely busy and cannot talk on the phone with all the members of the Congregation, but maybe I will be able to find a few minutes to talk to you.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

Almost instantly, the "widow" wrote to me:

Calvary greetings Reverend Ed,

Thank you for your mail, Sorry for my late response I left home all day to look for what my Children will eat, the name of the Reverend as you requested is CHUKWUEMEKA . He also told me that he will contact you shortly.

I look forward to hear from you.

God Bless you
Mrs. Oparaku

I am 99% convinced that the scammer Nelson = that widow named Oparaku = that new reverend named Chukwuemeka.

To verify, I will try to mention Nelson's name as a possible rival candidate for the position of Nigerian reverend. I'm sure the widow will be delighted.

If those two characters (the widow and Nelson) are the same person, my message will give credibility to the whole story.
If the widow is another scammer, then she may feel in competition with Nelson and act more decisively.

Father Ed, to the widow:

My dear, it would be extremely good for the Rev. Chukwuemeka to be active and constantly in communication, because we also have some discussions with a Christian man from Lagos named Mark Nelson (regarding the establishment of a new parish and the sponsorship of a Christmas charity). It is obvious that we will not be able to support two Nigerian parishes, so the one who will be faster in communication will be designated as Local Reverend of the Church of the Holy Lamb.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

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I got an answer from the reverend the widow was talking about... he claims he's from Imo State.

Is it still about 2 different scammers and everything is just a happy coincidence? We will see.

Dear Rev. Ed,

Peace of the Lord be with you and to all your Congregation. My Name is Rev. Chukwuemeka Ekeh from Imo State Nigeria, I am a savant of God a true devoted Christian and I was born in a Roman Catholic home but now I worship with the Lord Chosen Ministry Int; as a minister of God which I have over 150 active members and over 50 weekly visitors, I'm 45 years old with Children.

However, I have been going through your Church website because Mrs. Oparaku Chinwendu Emmanuela have told me a lot about it and advice me to contact you. I will be happy to work with you in these country or outside Nigeria. Thanks
I wait for your reply mail.

Your blessed
Rev. Chukwuemeka

I responded to Rev. Chukwuk's message... the classic message that answers all unspoken questions and mentions monthly salaries, installation bonuses and charitable activities completed with electronic products and sponsorship.

Dear my son, dear Ekeh, God bless you!
Can I tell you on your name Ekeh? I hope so.

I feel an enormous joy when I read your words, especially as I recognize in them the seed of Faith and I can see with the mind's eye how from that seed can grow the Tree of Knowledge. Our Savior Jesus willingly climbed the Cross, wanting to take on his shoulders all the burden of mankind's sins; so do we with those around us. We help them, we defend them, we offer them support and protection. God help us!

Let me tell you that we are a Christian Church, we believe in God Almighty and we think Jesus is the Son of God. Our main headquarters is in Aberdeen (UK) and we have few branches in America, Canada, Europe and Africa. We do charity and support especially the orphans and the homeless. All of our religious, cultural and charity actions can be watched on our church website, as you already know.

I am Reverend Eduard McDonald and I work for The Lord as Chancellor of this Holy Church; the leadership of our entire community is provided by His Excellency The Great Cardinal Eufrosie, God bless Him! The secret dream of His Excellency Cardinal Eufrosie is to succeed in building an African Cathedral, from which we can start evangelizing all the poor people in entire african continent. We already have a small parish in Mozambique and another in Senegal, but we want to find a man dedicated to the Faith on which we can rely and who will become our future BOA (Bishop of Africa).

Son, if Faith is strong in your heart and if you have some trustworthy people around you who want to follow you, then we are willing to give you the chance to become our new Reverend and to establish our new Parish. It is a huge responsibility, which comes with benefits as well as obligations. If you accept this important task, then you and your people must become members of our community and be baptized in the sacred spirit of the Holy Lamb. The Admission Process is something formal, but it must be done according to our Sacred Rules. The secretary of the church will assist you throughout the entire process and it will explain all the necessary steps, so that it will be easy for you to understand what the requirements are.

Your final Baptism Ceremony is equivalent to the official recognition of the existence of your new Parish and your appointment as our Local Reverend. The development and charity budget as well as the monthly salaries for you and your assistants will be discussed immediately after graduation. Also, usually an installation bonus is offered for the Reverend (for the proper equipping of the parish with all the necessary equipment - computers, telephones, printers, etc. and for purchasing all the necessary materials for the daily activity). But all these are just minor details that will be treated separately, immediately after the final Baptism Ceremony.

At the same time, we will ask you to help us identify an orphanage or a poor community that we can help by immediately sending a Package of Courtesy containing various necessary electronic equipment: mobilephones, laptops, TVs, etc. and a small amount of money, as sponsorship. As soon as your parish becomes operational, you will be directly able to coordinate these Charities as our representative.

In concluding this long message, I want to ask you one thing: Do you think you can be that providential man our Congregation needs in Africa? Do you feel the Call of Faith in you? Think well and talk to all those around you about this responsibility; you don't have to give me the answer right now. Look into your soul and find the answer there!

Be blessed, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed

Also, to shake up the whole situation, I sent a "wrong" message to Nelson... a message that should have reached to "his competitors".

Then, I apologized.

Maybe Nelson will see that there are other competitors in the game and will become more active.

Father Ed to Nelson, practically responding (by forward

) to Chukwuk's message:

Son,
I would like to know more details about the people around you, if they will be willing to follow you on the True Path of Faith in Jesus and if they will see in you a leader who can lift them out of the daily mud. Without the people around us, we are just lost sheep to the Lord's flock.
As you probably learned from Mrs. Emmanuela Oparaku, we intend to organize a charity Christmas event and at the same time inaugurate a new parish in Nigeria. I can't hide the fact that we are still in talks with several other people who have expressed interest in this regard and, in the end, that man who proved worthy of being appointed Local Reverend in Nigeria and who proved that he can safely manipulate our regional development budgets will be the Chosen One.
God bless him, God bless all of us! Allelujah, amen!

Be blessed, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed

and

Ohh, I'm sorry, the previous message wasn't for you. You can delete it and ignore it.

Blessings,
Rev. Ed

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Today was very quiet at church, so in the evening the Chancellor wrote a worrying message to the widow.

Dear my daughter, it looks like Reverend Chukwuemeka isn't willing to work with us, so I'm sorry to tell you I can't help you in any way. This morning I sent him a message that he doesn't seem to have paid attention to. It would have been polite for him to confirm that he had received my message. I regret your sad situation and I hope you solve everything well.

God bless you!
Rev. Ed

Coincidentally

, the Rev. Chukwuemeka decided to respond to Ed's last message:

Dear Rev. Ed,

Peace of the Lord be with you, I received your mail and I'm delighted to work with you only if it go the way you stated because am a dedicated Christian, I will not do anything outside God work because I truly believed in God Almighty and his Son Jesus and if your Church functions or activities is to do God work, am interested to accept and do the work since am in it already. I have taking my time to consider it because I know it's a great responsibility but I will be willing to accept the challenge.

I'm very sorry for my late response to your mail, today is my Church Consultation day and we had so many visitor and after it we had workers meeting. is not easy but I love doing God work. Thanks

I wait for your reply mail.

Your blessed
Rev. Chukwuemeka

Rev. Ed:

Dear Emeh, dear my son, God bless you!
Let me confess that your sincere words delight me and make me think that maybe you are the providential man we need to set up a new Parish. Please tell me a few more details about you, about the city where you live and want to set up our new Parish, about your future thoughts and about your projects.

Do you think the people around you will support your project? Are you able to gather those lost sheep of the flock near you? I am waiting for your answer, to see if we can go on together. If your answers are satisfactory, then I will ask our church secretary to handle the simple but necessary formalities for your Membership. I will be here for any needed advice and opinions, but you will need to be in touch with our secretary, because the bureaucratic work is part of our lives and we cannot avoid it.

Be blessed, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed

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If all goes well, our African Reverend will contact Secretary Dave and begin the normal procedures for Admission to the Holy Lamb Congregation.

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Friday

It seems that the Rev. Chukwuk really wants to cooperate with the Church of the Holy Lamb.

Overnight he wrote to Father Ed:

Dear Rev. Ed,

Thanks for your mail, It is an honor to be one of your members and especially to handle a parish of the Church, it have been my future dream to fully work in the lord's vineyard to produce fruit that God desired from His people and to convert/gather those lost sheep of the flock.

I am Reverend Chukwuemeka Ekeh I work for The Lord as a pastor for some years and am still doing the work of God till date, as a devoted Christian a believer of the Holy Lamb I left my job as an Accountant to focus on the work of God, I have four siblings and am married with three kids. I live in the Metropolitan City of Imo State Nigeria that has an estimated human population of about 2,401,873, I will be able to gather some of the lost sheep's but it is a gradual process that require handwork, an exemplary life etc and am very sure many people will follow me in the faith. They will give me their support.

To set up a new parish we will first register the Church at the Corporate Affairs Commission then rent a house or acquire for a plot of land for the Church building but building will cost more money than renting a house. In my locality I know three Orphanages homes. Thanks

I wait for your reply mail.

Your blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ
Rev. Chukwuemeka

Rev. Ed writes to the idiot (the Secretary of the Church - sister Dave aka Linoline - is in CC):

Dear my son Emeka,
I am happy to hear that you want to become a new Reverend for our great church and spread the word of Lord among the people around you. It is always a joy when the Lord adds to our flock and sends us strong and willing leaders who want to be the shepherds to the local sheep around them and guide them on the way to divinity. Hallelujah, amen!

Before we can start the procedure of becoming a Reverend, as you might understand, it is vital that you first become a member of our church. For this it is required to fill a form and to make a proof of faith picture, which every of our members have done before you. It is just a formality before we can start your installment as a Local Reverend, so I want to ask you to contact our church secretary, sister Davina Wilson.

Sister Dave,
Please make sure that our new brother Chukwu Emeka Ekeh understands all the necessary steps for his appointment as Local Reverend of the Church of the Holy Lamb in Nigeria. He already has all my blessing!
At the same time, please cooperate with him regarding the orphanage, so that we can send them a Courtesy Parcel by Christmas. I will discuss with the Elders immediately after the Sunday Sermon, but we will certainly approve the usual budget in these cases: $ 25,000 ($ 10,000 in electronic products + $ 15,000 direct sponsorship).

Be blessed, all of you, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed

As usual, we will try to get some funny trophies (Moses on the beach, Pyramid of Faith, Sacred Baptism with milk and honey) and we will try to make the idiot travel (the Courtesy Pack method).

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Thank you, I will remember your offer.

Mr. Pricky also offered to help me with a phone call from the Church Chancellor, but it looks like Nelson gave up his "checking".

His character (Nelson Mark) diminished and disappeared "into the fog", his place being taken by the new Reverend Chukwu Emeka.

The secretary of the church (Linoline) is already in contact with the idiot.

We will see if the promise of generous sponsorship will make him work properly.

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Dear brother Emeka

I am happy to hear that you want to become a new reverend for our great church and spread the word among the people around you. It is always a joy when the Lord adds to our flock and sends us strong and willing leaders who want to be the shepherds to the local sheep around them and guide them on the way to divinity.

Before we can start the procedure of becoming a reverend, as you might understand, it is vital that you first become a member of our church. For this it is required to fill a form and to make a proof of faith picture, which every of our members have done before you. It is just a formality before we can start your installment as a local reverend, so I want to ask you to please fill out the form attached to this email in red ink and send a scanned or clear photographed copy back to me at your earliest convenience.

Be blessed

Sister Dave

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Somewhat suspicious, the Rev. Chukwu wrote to Chancellor Ed:

Dear Rev. Eduard,

Papa, I have acknowledged your message and that of Sister Dave regarding filling of the membership form which I will follow the process, what are the moral value of the Church and what will be the next step after filling of the form. Thanks

I wait for your reply mail.

Your blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Rev. Chukwuemeka

Of course we have nothing to hide

, so the explanations were not long in coming:

Son,
I have already answered your questions in my first message to you. Please reread it very carefully because it provides all the necessary information. Our doctrine is widely presented on the church's website, so that everyone can understand what we are doing.

However, because you wrote to me and because I promised to be with you with my advice, I will try to explain briefly who we are and what we want.
- The Church of the Holy Lamb is a Christian church, which has as moral landmarks the values of FHV - Faith, Honor, Virtue. All the members of our Congregation must possess these 3 moral virtues.
- We believe that Jesus is the unique and eternal son of God, and in His capacity as Lord's Lamb He took upon Himself all the sins of men and He suffered the Crucifixion on the Cross for us.

The quality of Reverend is obtained after the candidate completes the necessary steps and here Sister Davina will explain everything to you leisurely, with all the necessary details. You do not have to be afraid, the procedures are somewhat bureaucratic but mandatory for the registration of your Parish in our Register of records. Each Local Reverend is responsible for the smooth running of his Parish, having the monthly salary and development expenses provided by us in the first 5 years of operation. After the expiration of the 5-year grace period, any parish must be able to support itself from members' donations and from its current activities.

We also assist charitable operations conducted by local Reverends by providing a quarterly budget (these decisions are made during meetings with Elderly board members). The responsibility and organization of these charitable events is the task of our local Reverends. They take care of the distribution of the sent packages and the distribution of the sponsorship funds. Of course, you will need few reliable people to be with you during these actions. These people, like Jesus' apostles, will be your assistants and will also receive monthly salaries.

Be blessed, in the sacred name of our Holy Lamb!
Rev. Ed

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Dear Sister Dave,

Thanks for your mail, I'm happy to be a member of the great church and spread the word of God Almighty and His Son Jesus. I will fill the form by tomorrow and send it to you.

Be blessed

Chukwuemeka

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Completely relaxed, our scammer writes to Father Ed:

Dear Rev. Ed,

Papa, Thanks for your mail, I have rest of mind now with you because when Sister Dave sent the membership form for me to fill with red ink and also send my picture photo I was afraid, that is why I asked you because am a devoted Christian and I will not do anything outside Almighty God and His Son Jesus Christ my Savior. I will go ahead to fill the form and report to her by tomorrow and also inform you.

I wait for your reply mail.

Your blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Rev. Chukwuemeka

My reply:

Dear Emeka, dear my son,
I'm glad I was able to help and I can assure you that Sister Dave knows our procedures better than many of our brothers. She handles, virtually speaking, with all of the bureaucratic issues that govern the life of a congregation.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

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Sister dave wrote back today

Dear brother Emeka,

I am happy to see your positive response and will be waiting for you to send me the filled form. It fills me with joy that you are willing to become a reverend and start a new parish for our <snipped> church, spread the word of the Lord and have the community around you benefit from our financial support.

Be blessed
Sister Dave

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We have our first trophy.

Dear reverend Emeka wrote to father Ed and sister Dave... more or less, is the same text:

Dear Rev. Ed,

Papa, I have filled the form as attached and I will also forward it to Sister Dave if it is not clear I will refill it on Monday because I went to a public Business Center to do the printing. I will Like Monthly Salary as I forgot to check the box. Thanks

I wait for your reply mail.

Your blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Rev. Chukwueme

Father Ed:

Son, everything seems to be fine there. I do not deal with bureaucratic details but sister Dave confirmed to me that she received your message and that there are no problems.

Be blessed,
Rev. Ed

Sister Dave, asking for another trophy:

Dear brother Emeka,

Thank you for sending your form. I have reviewed it and it is good. The second and final step of becoming a member of our church is the 'Proof of Faith' picture. All our new members make them and the pictures of aspiring reverends will be displayed on the wall of our church hall for some time, so all parishioners can become familiar with the new reverends. The donations of our parishioners are the funds that will pay the salaries for the reverends and parishes until they are self-sufficient.

I have attached the document that you will need to print. Hold it in front of your chest, and have someone make a picture of you in bright daylight so you will be completely visible and please send that back to me.

After this we can work on the process of you becoming our new reverend.

Be blessed

Dave

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The idiot was silent for the last 2 days, so father Ed sent a message to sister Dave.

Dear sister Dave,
Please let me know about the stage our dear brother Emeka Ekeh has reached, because I would like to include his spending budget in the balance needed for December. I hope that he will complete the accession formalities by then and be able to begin the work of the Lord in the midst of his community.

Be Blessed,
Rev. Ed

Sister Dave, to our imbecile:

Dear brother Emeka,

As you can see in the message below, father Ed asks me to give him an update about your progress in the membership process, but unfortunately I haven't heard anything from you since Saturday. I am worried about this, because this is not an attitude we promote and it is not good for a future reverend to be silent for so long. Please let me know if everything is ok and when I can expect to receive your proof of faith picture. The elders will soon decide the budgets for December and it would be a shame if your new parish wouldn't be receiving any funds yet over the delay of a picture.
What would you like me to tell Father Eduard about your silence?

Be blessed
Dave

It seems that things are moving, because Emeka wrote to Ed.

Dear Rev. Ed,

Papa, How are you today, may the Lord strengthen you in all you do to support the work of God. I have sent the Prof of Faith Picture to Sister Dave as she requested and stated is the final stage to become a member and I thank the Almighty God for making it possible for me to complete this process to do His work .

I wait to hear from you.

Your blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Rev. Emeka

He did not yet understand that membership did not yet allow him to become a Reverend.

There are some important steps to take, until he can hope to receive the church's money.

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Our Reverend Emeka sent us another nice trophy:

Dear Sister Dave,

Thanks for your mail, I'm very sorry for my delay to report to you concerning your previous mail on Proof of Faith Picture, I didn't know it was that urgent, is not of my attitude not responding to mails rather I planned to do it yesterday but I came back late in the night. Attached is the picture. Thanks

I wait to hear from you.

Be blessed
Brother Emeka

Sister Dave:

Dear brother Emeka,

It is not necessarily a problem that you send me the picture today but I want to emphasize that communication is impossible. It's not good to just disappear for days without giving us an update or a small response to our messages.
I have received your picture and I will show it to the elders tomorrow. After that I will let you know what they said about it and if they decide to continue the process of you becoming a reverend for our church.

Be blessed
Dave

We need a lot of fun, so we'll accept the picture and ask the idiot to do the scene with Moses and the tribe by the seaside.

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In the middle of the night he replied to dave

Dear Sister Dave,

Thanks for your mail,

I wait to hear your final conclusion as I have completed the process of membership.

Be blessed

Brother Emeka

This morning, sister Dave came with good news

Dear brother Emeka,

You are officially accepted by the elders as a new member of our church and I want to welcome you as our true brother in the Lord. They decided that you can proceed now with the process of becoming an official reverend for the <snipped> church and start your own parish. You already have proven yourself to be a man of faith so the Lord couldn't have chosen better than to send you to fulfil this task and spread the word in your country.

There are a few steps that need to be taken to become a reverend. You can view these as your spiritual journey to prepare you for your task to lead a parish and be shepherd of your own flock. You don't need to worry about anything, because these steps will not be hard to do, but you will need to prepare them in prayer and guidance of the Lord.

To become a reverend, first you need to gather a few disciples to help you with the tasks in front of you. Jesus had 12 apostles, so the preferred number would be 12, but since this is a very new decision that you have made, we will not expect you to have 12 disciples already, this process might take some more time, so we suggest that you start with 4 people to help you. You will need them also to pray for you and the task that lies ahead of you. It is of utmost importance and the disciples will each earn a salary once your parish is operational, which will not be as much as the reverend, but we expect them to dedicate their time to the new parish and they will need to provide for their living as well.

Together with these disciples you will have to recreate a Biblical scene, the one where Moses parts the sea after the Lord has led them out of Egypt. You will have to dress in a robe, wearing a cloak, or something resembling these clothes and hold a rod in your hand like Moses did. Your disciples will need to be dressed equally but it should be clear that you are their leader, like Moses was the leader of the Israelites when God led them away from Egypt. Pray together and read the Biblical story to feel the message that the Lord wanted to give us through this history. Then you will find a place close to water. This should preferably be the sea, a river or a stream, but if you can't find it, a lake, or even, by lack of that, a swimming pool will be accepted. Since this is about your reenactment of the scene and not the scenery itself. You will need to act out 4 different parts of the story and from each of these parts you will have to send us 5 pictures, so a total of at least 20 pictures is what we expect you to send us.

- Moses and the people kneeling down praying to the Lord
- Moses with raised hands while the people are still kneeling
- Moses with his rod raised to the sky, people looking in awe at the parted waters
- Moses and the people with raised hands praising the Lord for the miracle of salvation.

Remember that this is a spiritual process which has to be guided by prayer of you and your disciples. We don't expect you to rush this process and send us these pictures today, but we do expect you to keep communicating with us about the progress you are making in the preparations for this task that will prepare you to be the leader of your own flock.

Be blessed
sister Dave

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^^^ Thanks a lot!

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It seems that all these idiots love to talk on the phone... Emeka of course wants money, before doing anything else and he asked to talk on the phone with the Grand Chancellor. I will try to avoid this. If that is not possible, I will ask Mr. Pricky or Yastreb to initiate a telephone conversation with our dear Rev. Emeka of Nigeria.

The idiot, to the Chancellor Ed:

Dear Rev. Ed,

Papa, How are you today,

I received another mail from sister Dave as stated bellow but I was not informed about this assignment from the start. However, as I told you earlier before you directed me to sister Dave it is a gradual process that will take some time before I start having disciples since church is not in this country and I will be the first to establish it, I think it requires a total commitment for me to convert people to leave their Church to follow me which also requires time, gift and monitory sacrifices to evangelize to them because I have to rent an office or have a little Church premises with few chairs where I will gather them to teach the word of God and the church because without that they will not take me serious.

It is my Call to serve God Almighty and His Son Jesus Christ as a Christian and also it is my legacy to gather the lost sheep's to the Holy Lamb , I need Financial assistance to start up this process and I will also appreciate if you call me on phone so we can discourse and you hear my voice, here is my phone number +2348038516446. May the Lord strengthen you in all you do to support the work of God.

I wait to hear from you.

Your blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Rev. Emeka

My old Chancelor, to sister Dave:

Sister Dave,
Please clarify all aspects of Brother Emeka's appointment as our Reverend. If necessary, you can even talk to him by phone. It seems that he did not understand some things and he probably needs additional clarification. I am of course referring to our Rules regarding the sponsorship of the Parishes and to the provisions related to the salary and the development budget. He must understand that he cannot receive money as Reverend of the parish, as long as he is not officially appointed and as long as the Parish is not declared functional. Please explain him the 3 steps of Admission and explain that these days of delay will make us unable to secure the sponsorship of his budget for Christmas.

In these days of effervescence before the Great Feast of Our Lord Jesus Christ, I do not have time to talk on the phone with anyone and offer explanations about bureaucratic procedures. Please deal with the problem.

Blessings,
Rev. Ed

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Dave received the same message from our idiot (so I chose to ignore the chancellor's message about phonecalls, if we can avoid it and make them drool with greed it's better). She replied:

Dear brother Emeka,

I understand that this might seem a bit overwhelming, so let me explain to you a bit better. The reenactment of the scene with Moses at the red sea is a spiritual task where you will show that you live with the faith, know God's word and can carry it out.

The people you will choose to be your official assistants, minimum of 4 people, maximum of 12, they will support you spiritually and help you practically with the process of becoming a reverend and they will, like you, receive a monthly salary from our church when your parish is officially operational. We will financially support your parish, you as a reverend and your official assistants for a period of 10 years, gradually decreasing the budgets because we expect you to be self-sufficient by that time through the donations of local members, so you will have plenty of time for evangelisation and spreading the word.

This task doesn't require money at all, just the help of a few friends. If you don't have robes, then use bed-sheets, we are not judgmental about that because the nature of the task is spiritual and clothes are just earthly possessions that hold no value in heaven.

After you have done this reenacting of Moses at the red sea we will talk about the sponsorship package that you will receive to get your parish started. Phones for you and your official assistants, laptops for efficiently preparing sermons, beamers, printers, etc. You can start thinking about the products you will need. Usually the budget for this is $10.000,-, but we will discuss the details of this after you completed this task. Also at that time the elders will decide the final amount for financial support of your parish, which is usually between $15.000 and $25.000 depending of the financial situation of the new reverend.

I hope I have been able to clarify the process a bit more and have alleviated some of your concerns.

Be blessed

Sister Dave

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