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Post by tazmanian on Mar 5, 2021 13:41:24 GMT
It's unlikely you'll find any safaris or epic, intertwined plots here, as you will do in other threads on this great forum.
What you will find - and what will perhaps be of use to new baiters - is an example of straight baiting (SB). SB might not seem as fun or entertaining as the more elaborate baits but it's a good place to start. Why? Because while the likes of Birlic, Linoline or Pricky may make elaborate baits or frequent safaris seem easy, they aren't. It's a combination of - in my opinion - practice, effort and natural talent. SB is a great place to start developing those skills. It's the equivalent of learning to drive a Honda Civic before training for Nascar. It may not be as thrilling but it's still useful and enjoyable in its own right.
So let's see how a typical straight bait can run.
Before we start let me clarify I had already baited this lad - we'll call him JD - under a couple of other email addresses. It quickly became apparent that he is the type who rapidly becomes abusive as soon as he is frustrated or disappointed. I tend to find this is a symptom of a lack of confidence in scammers.
Characters:
Barrister JD: Scammer in Nigeria, sending me oil dollars
Dr MW - Junior doctor from England, now based in Miami.
(LAD SENDS TYPICAL "I AM A BARRISTER NEEDING TO TRANSFER MILLIONS FROM A NIGERIAN OIL FUND CONTRACT" BLAH BLAH BLAH).
To be honest I rarely even read the first email. I just fish out enough detail to keep the bait going.
My first reply is always minimal, since many replies get bounced:
Sorry, this ended up in my spam folder somehow. Can you tell me more about this? Dr M
about 12 hours later: Please can call me so that we can talk.+234 **** Regards
At this point I tried to poke barrister JD by buzzing his phone (calling and letting it ring just once). This is a common tactic I use on lads as A) It annoys them and B) It means they have to pay for the callback. I then sent him three or four emails over as many days, but he didn’t respond. I suspect my previous baits had made him weary. In the end I called and spoke to his “secretary” (probably his wife) but hung up before she could fetch her scamming spouse.
30 minutes later: Did you called me? Send the number you use to call let me be sure.
What do you mean be sure? I told you I called you. A woman answered the phone. (I confirmed my number)
That's my secretary when she gave me phone you drop the phone. For security reasons the number has called me three time's since yesterday. If I tried to call back it will not go through. (It’s my skype number)I have the number just confirmed it so that I will be sure.
About an hour later: I use that number for outgoing calls only due to my work. For incoming calls, use the number I emailed to you about a week ago.
I tried to call again two time's you did not pick my calls. On your good time call me.
That's enough for now. I answer a lad when I wish, not when he wants.
The next day the lad called me (sadly I forgot to record the call) and, as is typical for a lad's first call, he just repeated the details of his first email and asked me to send him my passport. He also asked me the time in Miami - where my baiting character is based - a typical trick to test if I am real. The lesson here is have your fake address and local time ready when a lad calls.
I thought the thief would relax after that, but about 12 hours later.... I tried to call again two time's you did not pick my calls. On your good time call me.
I had to turn off the phone due to my work, I cannot be interrupted at times. You can call me right now or e mail me the details of our next step.
Later... Before we proceed I want to know the nature of your business anything to identify you.Why you don't like calling me?
Later still... You don't pick my calls. You have my number. Call me when ever you are ready. I hate insult.
In part two my character will start throwing some jabs at this arrogant, insecure excuse for a human....
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Post by Linoline on Mar 5, 2021 14:29:11 GMT
tazmanian, Straight baiting is in no way 'less' than what birlic and I do. Personally I am always impressed by baiters who can straight bait scammers for a long time. I simply can not think of the numerous excuses to keep them on the hook that way. *grabs popcorn* keep updating :-)
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Post by tazmanian on Mar 5, 2021 14:34:31 GMT
The bait is now properly up and running. I haven't tried any wacky stunts or major pranks. Instead I'm just keeping the lad stringing along. My previous baits have made him nervous enough that he wants to keep in constant phone contact. The lad has invested time and emails in me. This "investment effect" is important. The more time, effort and thought a scammer puts in to a particular victim, the more likely he is to tolerate annoyances, "mistakes" by the victim or the reality of other characters who become involved in the bait. In my view, this is why and how Birlic and Linoline produced their great baits in this forum. They create such lucid, unique characters that the scammer has to stop and think about who he is talking to and what they want. This effort makes everything real in his mind, so real that he is prepared to borrow money to travel hundreds of miles to collect a package that never existed. I'm not aiming that high here but still, I think we can step things up. I compare my baits to a boxer or MMA fighter who spends the first couple of rounds just finding their range and "feeling out" their opponent. It may seem dull but at some point the opponent will become overconfident and that's when the counter attack happens. That it comes by surprise just makes it more deadly.
Barrister Baby's last message was: You don't pick my calls. You have my number. Call me when ever you are ready. I hate insult.
Again, this is a very typical scammer message. It's a mixture of arrogance, insecurity and a fear that they may be wasting their time. It's also designed to be domineering, conveying a sense of authority and control. This probably works well on genuine victims who are very shy or low on confidence.
I wonder if it will work on Dr MW?
You seem rather whiny for a prominent businessman. I am a junior surgeon and for that reason there are times that I must either turn off my phone and/or not have it with me at all. I also work nights regularly so need to switch off my phone to rest. How can we proceed?
Notice the tiny little slap (or "jab" as I like to call it) but also the dangle of "how can we proceed?" to keep the money in his mind.
About three hours later (but I read it the next day): Dear Sir. You have to be serious if you want us to finalize this deal fast. If you know that you're ready we can stop now. I told you that I need something to identifies you so that I will be sure of whom I am dealing with. As I told you we need five documents to make this deal work. Anti terrorist certificate Anti drugs clearance certificate. Certificate of incorporation from corporate affairs commission, NNPC contract certificate and Proof of ownership certificate. If you're ready I will get the cost of the documents so that we can proceed. Regards Hello Barrister, I understand your concern. A copy of my passport scan is attached. My full name is Michael J*** W*** and yes, please proceed with costing.
Attached was a junk file, half a gigabite in size, entitled "passport_scan.jpg". I knew the thief would either open it and complain about it - in which case many responses are possible or simply decide not to spend so much bandwidth and ignore it. The lad went with the second option.
About 15 hours later We have to apply for your contractors identity card first before the documents will be issue in your name. Attached the sample of the NNPC contractors identity card of another person. It will cost you only $550 dollars. Since we have your passport it will be paste on it You have to send the money now through World remit. Google it on your phone WWW.WORLDREMIT.COM First name Ab***** Last name Sa**** Address DX3 Abuja Phone +234 dialascammer Regards
In this email the lad included this gem of credible, genuine and totally believable identification. Drum roll please..........
The scammer thinks he is controlling the pace, so I will wait about 24 hours and then annoy him with a classic tactic: tell him I have a question but force him to ask what the question is.
Thank you barrister, I'm ready to proceed with the transfer. A couple of important questions first, though.
sure enough: Which question?
Notice that I keep mentioning I'm "ready to proceed" or "ready to make the transaction", etc. This thief keeps getting reminded that his stolen money is just past the next email. Now let's annoy him by asking a technical question that he will have no clue how to handle. It's also, in my view, the type of question a real victim is likely to ask. Actually I have one concern: tax. I am a UK citizen living in the USA. Will I have to pay tax in Nigeria, UK or USA?
From now on, the anger and frustration will start to shine through in his messages
About 2 hours after my message: tax have nothing to do with this deal. You have to follow my directives if you want us to finalize this fast.
And then about 7 hours later, which I read the next day: I am suspecting that you're not a honest person. Can you disagree with me?
Yet another example of scammer psychology: acting as if the victim has to plead their innocence when actually the scammer is looking to reassure himself.
Based on that last manchild's message, it's time to start swinging.That afternoon: If you suspect I am not honest then let's cancel the transaction. I wish you and your family the best.
Will the lad say "OK let's cancel. Goodbye."? More chance of winning a real lottery, I think...
An hour later: Yes is that how you run your own deal business? I open up to you about how we will proceed you keep on playing pranks. How many time's have you called me on phone? I cannot do anything with any un serious person.
Me, an hour later (I wouldn't normally reply so quickly, but I was bored): You behave in a very childlike manner. I called you many times, your setup is not professional, your secretary sounds like a child. True story^^
Barrister baby throws his toys out of the pram again a few hours later, but I read it the next day. That's not an excuse. Did you keep to your word? Do you knew what I am going through here. Don't you know that things are not easy here. My secretary have nothing to do with this. I have called you many time's you never pick or call back. You always flash without calling. The first time I picked your call you dropped.
I reply at my leisure: Again, whining like a spoilt child. It is not my fault if your country has a poor telephone network. Please cease all contact and spend the time training your secretary.
The barrister throws his final toy out of the playpen with a little inner monologue the next morning: You are a nobody trying to survive
My character rubs salt in the burn about six hours later: I am a qualified medical practitioner living in my country of choice. You are a buffoon who cannot even train your secretary.
The next morning I see the barrister is probably too busy mourning his lost dollars to reply, but it's getting fun now: Let your secretary run your business. She is more professional and probably more of a man than you Scammers are very big on masculinity, adulthood and pride, questioning any of those often gets under their skin. Sure enough, my last comment pushes him back to action that afternoon: Can you stop this insult. You're not ready for the money you're only playing pranks. What stops you from sending the money for your NNPC contractors identity card. My secretary?I reply a few hours later and the jabs become hooks: No barrister, the problem is not your secretary, the problem is YOU. That you cannot accept this is yet more evidence of your inability to behave like a man instead of a boy. I sent you my passport, called you and expressed a willingness to pay. You evaded simple tax questions and resorted to childish remarks. You failed to comprehend that a medical practitioner may sometimes have to switch off his phone in a hospital. Apologise immediately and sincerely and we can discuss payment, or cease all contact immediately. I am not impoverished and do not need to be insulted to earn a wealthy living.
The next day shows no new messages in my inbox. That last punch may have been too hard for our scammer's fragile little ego, so I do what any baiter does and dangle the lure of dollars once more: As a gesture of goodwill I am willing to send a small deposit this weekend
That afternoon.... TA-DAH! Dr Mike I apologize if my secretary answered you rudely. I am very sure that with one mind we must archive this. I assured you from the bottom of my heart that it will not happen again. I am very sorry if you're angry with me. Regards
Now my lad has been a good little puppy and done as he was told, I pat him on the head the next morning: I accept your apology. Kindly allow me to be clear. your secretary is not a problem. I can send you the full sum within 48 hours. The only problem is that I will be in surgery for almost 26 hours in the next two days. When I am at work I cannot use my phone, outside of work I will be sleeping. I can send it on Wednesday instead, or I can ask the father of my wife to send the money on my behalf and provide you with the number. Kindly advise me how to proceed.
Lad replies: You have the information to send the money through Worldremit Keep me posted when you send it.
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Post by tazmanian on Mar 5, 2021 15:01:58 GMT
Now my pet thief is suitably punished, I want to steer him towards a chop or a call to Lenny. But I need to get him away from worldremit and on to one of the 'big two' (Western Union or Moneygram) first.
Next day: The information is fine, however I am not familiar with this world remit. I would rather use an international transfer system such as western union or money gram
Let's sweeten the pot even more, and maybe set up a package safari. A few hours later. Barrister one more thing, we've been allocated iPhone 12 Pro phones at the centre as a gratuity from a pharmaceutical company. Since I and my family already have one each, I could send one to you and one for your secretary or wife. Let me know if you are interested
Barrister baby the next morning: Dear Sir. Your mail has been received. I am very happy for your offer. Due to insecurity here I cannot receive the phone when you ship it. I will be coming to America by end of April. I will meet you one on one. I am sure that before then you've receive your fund. I appreciated your kindly mind you have for me. I promised you that I will not disappoint you. On the mode of the payment Worldremit still remains the best. Google it with your phone it is very easy. You don't need to go to any store or bank to send it. With your phone everything will be done. Regards
I won't dwell on the delivery offer as that would pull me away from straight baiting. But using Worldremit? Ain't gonna happen. I let him wait about 36 hours to stew a bit. Hello barrister, I searched for world remit on my phone and this is what I get (I attached a genuine
screenshot of an app search without worldremit appearing in my search)
Lad hits me next day: I tried to call but you're not with your phone I guess you're busy at work. Since you said that you cannot get Worldremit on your phone. Used this name to send it through western Union. REPEATS HIS PAYMENT DETAILS, HE’S GETTING EXCITED Send the payment information as soon as you're through. Regards
I'll be gentle as I want to get him chopped or Lenny'd Hello Barrister, yes, we are obliged to keep personal phones turned off inside the hospital for obvious reasons. At the moment it will be hard to get to the MG myself and I notice you wish this transaction to complete quickly, and I would like the funds quickly. I can ask my wife's father to make the transaction tomorrow. Rest assured he will have no details beyond the payment being made and he can call you with the details immediately. Would this be suitable?
As normal with scammers, they panic at the thought of anyone else getting involved. There's too much danger of their victim being warned. that is another party. The payment must come from you with your name. The receipt of the payment will be used to issue the NNPC contractors identity card on your name.Unless you didn't want us to proceed.
I'll be gentle one last time. I understand. The problem is that most money transfer outlets are closed at night when I am free. Lenny, my father in law, has made transfers for me before and will not ask any questions. What if I complete the form myself and sign a copy of my passport (the same scan I sent you) to give to him to authorise the transfer? The only difference is he would be the person handing over the money at the counter. Western Union already confirmed this would be fine
Next day, lad just won't have it Sir please if you want to follow my advice do. I don't want a situation that you will not be happy with me. You must create chance and make the payment with your name. It will not take you 30 minis.please reason with me.
I'm not sure if he is still panicking at the thought of Lenny being involved or if he is just too darn thick to understand what I'm telling him. OK, I'll be patent yet one more time, again: Thank you for your patience, barrister. I understand your concerns. My problem is that right now my shift work means I am only free at times when Western Union offices near me are closed. I will make the payment, from my own account, in my name, to your recipient. The only difference would be that another person - someone I trust and who does not question me - will hand over the money at the counter. Is that acceptable? If not, I will need to wait at least another seven days for my shift to change. Kind regards,
Next day: lad is going back to being lazy and ignorant: How can that be possible?
Minor jab, the bait is losing pace and I can't have that: How can what be possible? Please be clear, time is against us
Lad replied a few hours later. Every thing is in your hand as soon as you make the payment. We have no other option than to proceed. Reconfirm the information I gave you for the payment to avoid paying to the wrong person.
No other option eh? Well then I guess it's time for me to head to the MG office and make the transfer. Would anyone like to help?
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Post by Birlic on Mar 5, 2021 15:15:17 GMT
In my opinion, a classic "straight baiting" story is at least as difficult as a "fantasy" one.
Because the scambaiter must conform to the "scammer's reality" and run the game in conditions he cannot always control / modify.
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Post by Pricky on Mar 6, 2021 6:13:25 GMT
We can almost certainly find one of the Nigerian SBC Team Members to help you with this. IM me on Skype. One of my baiting friends could probably take a customised image for you of Apple and Sony goods in cartons.
Folks, Tazmanian (aka 'Kelvin Davis' from my upload 'The Secret Agent is a Scammer') began baiting in 2006. I am very happy to see him here, posting.
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Post by tazmanian on Mar 7, 2021 11:23:33 GMT
In keeping with the tone of the bait, I won't chop this lad yet - but choppers at the transfer outlet and fellow guymen will feature in future. For now the clerk at MG will refuse the transaction under money laundering and terrorism grounds. Any volunteers to play the clerk? The call is scheduled for next weekend.
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