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Post by Yastreb on Mar 12, 2021 3:40:29 GMT
A lot of scammers seem to lack more than just conscience and morals; add intelligence and initiative to the list. So here are two examples of that failing.
Both of these scammers wrote to Cammy, each saying that he'd pay her outstanding contract funds. I have a standard modality for that, in which Cammy tells of the imminent payment of her contract with the Australian Football League for arranging publicity photographs.
My statements are in bold; scammer emails are date-stamped. Some names have been changed.
Without more ado...
PART 1: "I AM A CON"
30 July 2017 Subject: I am a new appointment as a new board of trusty here is this office and my name is PETE BEAN, please read well and get back to me don’t delay or to ignore this no just get back today Attention dear owner How are you doing today hope fine together with your family. Without delay I am a new appointment as a new board of trusty here is this office and my name is PETE BEAN. and am here to handle your case and I have check out your payment file and your funds also I find out that your funds and your payment file is now expired already because of long delay and it will be renewed before you will receive your first payment through money gram and the charges it will cost is only 65 dollars that is final okay. Now if you’re ready to deal with me just ask me where to send the money needed after reading okay. I am a new appointment as a new board of trusty here is this office and my name is PETE BEAN
Mr Bean I don't understand - what office are you at? And I don't get that bit about a "payment file... now expired already because of long delay ". By Freyja's tears, the payment's due in three weeks and the contract was only finalised in May! Camille White
31 July Subject: Camille White now here is the money gram info to use and send the 65.00 and try forward us your full information including your number okay . and after this payment be made your funds will be release 2.9m and you will receive it as you like okay . i am the new person in this office and i will do you fine Am from Benin government office , now here is the money gram info to use and send the 65.00 and try forward us your full information including your number okay . and after this payment be made your funds will be release 2.9m and you will receive it as you like okay . i am the new person in this office and i will do you fine RECEIVER NAME===== UDE PAUL COUNTRY ==BENIN CITY== COTONOU AMOUNT==== 65 DOLLARS fill this once done sender name-- country-- mtcn number I am a new appointment as a new board of trusty here is this office and my name is PETE BEAN
Mr Bean The AFL is paying us, not your government. Camille White
Has he given up already?
1 August Subject: then go that side very fine
It's all kewl.
Seems not!
2 August Subject: Without delay I receive your mail and I understand it very clear please no need to delay this any longer just go to money gram or western union and make the payment needed 65.00 so that you will have your funds as you like okay . Get it done today or tomorrow morning Without delay I receive your mail and I understand it very clear please no need to delay this any longer just go to money gram or western union and make the payment needed 65.00 so that you will have your funds as you like okay . Get it done today or tomorrow morning Receiver name=== JOHN EZE Country ==benin City ==cotonou Amount=== 65.00 PETE BEAN
You're not with the AFL, so you don't have any part in the matter! Look, if you need money, just say so, and I can send you some. How's that, dewd? Camille White
3 August Subject: but i send you the info since yes i need the money hope you will send it today and hope the info is there but i send you the info since yes i need the money hope you will send it today and hope the info is there
Now why do you need my money?
3 August do you want to receive your funds yes or no
Of course we want our money - duh, dewd, that's a no-brainer.
4 August Subject: okay since you said that you love to receive your funds here is the info to send it so that your payment file will be renew and your funds before we can carry on okay okay since you said that you love to receive your funds here is the info to send it so that your payment file will be renew and your funds before we can carry on okay money gram RECEIVER NAME==== JOHN EZE COUNTRY BENIN CITY COTONOU AMOUNT ==== 65.00
We're being paid by the AFL, and you're not with the AFL, so you don't have a payment file on us, which means...
That's right, folks; the subject line was also the text of the email.
5 August Subject: which means i am a con is that what you mean please stay away from this matter now since you cant do any things okay which means i am a con is that what you mean please stay away from this matter now since you cant do any things okay
Well, you said it, so it must be true. Thanx for the candour.
Weeks pass by...
23 October 2017 Subject: how are you doing today hope fine together with your family. please what is going on and did you authorize any person to come and claim your funds here urgent mail now. how are you doing today hope fine together with your family. please what is going on and did you authorize any person to come and claim your funds here urgent mail now.
Who are you, and what are you trying to tell me? Camille White
Two years pass, near enough...
19 August 2019 Subject: PLEASE DID YOU SEND ANY ONE HERE TO CLIAM YOUR FUNDS AND SHE SAID YOU DEAD SO PLEASE IF YOUR ALIVE URGENT MAIL AND ANSWER US ATTENTION, hello Camille White how are you doing today hope fine together with your family and people around you, yesterday miss Rose came to my office demand your funds to be calim by her reason she gave is that your dead so please i want to know the truth before we hand over this 5.3m to her but first we want to know the truth we can not just judge without your notice okay. so urgent mail now. BEST REGARD MR. PETE BEAN call my line REDACTED
Mr Bean First off, I'm not dead, and I don't know this miss Rose. Secondly, the AFL already paid the contract, so I don't know what this miss Rose, whoever the Hel she might be, is claiming. Camille White
20 August so you dont want to receive your funds yes or no
We were paid two years ago, just as I told you at the time.
And that was all from him. But wait, there's another Lad to come...
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Post by Yastreb on Mar 12, 2021 8:54:55 GMT
Part 2: "STOP ASKING SILLY QUESTIONS"
Just after Pete Bean departed, a new Lad arrived!
2 October 2019 I with hope you read my bellow message? You have to try for the very last time and send the fees and you will receive your long awaiting fund to start your new life ok. My only concerns is to see that you receive your fund worth's of $800.000.00 to start your new investment and to send me special bonus and nothing more. Try to reason with me now let us achieve our aims and rejoice at once. I will be looking forward for your lat actions regarding the last balance charges that holds you from having full access to your fund. Please I don't want you to lose your fund. Regard Mr Joshua Sellers
Mr Sellers I'm confused. Who do you work for? Camille White
3 October
I work for united nation
Cammy replied quoting the Lad's message plus her interpolations (in red).
Mr Sellers I'm still confused. You have to try for the very last time and send the fees (what fees?) and you will receive your long awaiting fund (it hasn't been that long - hell, the contract was only completed in August) to start your new life ok (I don't want to start a new life, I'm happy with my life as it is!). My only concerns is to see that you receive your fund worth's of $800.000.00 (the contract is for $1.52 million) to start your new investment (I don't invest; my BBFF does that) and to send me special bonus and nothing more (So you're expecting a bribe??). I will be looking forward for your lat actions regarding the last balance charges that holds you from having full access to your fund (what charges?). Camille White
3 October The charges is the sum of $250 only for your fund insurance and clearance certificate ok. Regard Mr Joshua Sellers working under the instructions of united nation
Mr Sellers Fund insurance and clearance certificate? Why would we need those? Camille White
4 October This is to enable you to have full access on your fund ok. Its necessary and obligated. Mr Joshua
If I'm going to need those things for full access to the funds, why are you keeping more than half?
5 October Stop asking silly questions if you want to receive your fund kindly send the needed required charges or forget about the fund!
The AFL contract says that we're going to be paid by cheque, there are no fees involved, and the United Nations isn't mentioned anywhere.
11 October Hello Are you there? Why all these delaying? Mr Joshua
Mr Sellers What delays? We got paid today! $1.52 million! Looks like we didn't need you after all, dewd! Camille White
12 October I'm still waiting for your last actions towards for the completion of your transactions. Your fund worth of $800.000.00 is ready to get to your hand once you send the last obligate fees ok. Waiting to hear from you asap Mr Joshua
Mr Sellers We received our contract payment of $1.52 million. There is nothing for you to do! OK? Camille White
15 October I know you can not deny been received all my messages regarding your outstanding fund worth of $800.000.00? Why do you still delaying in sending the last charges and receive your fund? I will be waiting to read from you soon as you read this message.
Regard Mr Joshua Sellers
Cammy paraphrases the Lad's message in reply.
Mr Sellers I know you can not deny been received all my messages regarding our contract fund worth of $1.52 million? Why do you still demanding that I send a last charge when we've received our fund? Camille White
18 October 2019 Treat as Urgent and stop delaying because we dont have much time on this your transaction so be fast lets complete this transaction for now. I will be waiting Mr Joshua
Mr Sellers We're not delaying anything, dewd. The only delay happening here is inside your fucking head! You got that? Camille White
25 October Hello Dear, I'm reminding you once again regarding your incoming fund worths of $800.000.00 USD and I'm not happy anymore the where you are playing with your fund by not sending the required charges and have full access to your fund to start your own personal business. Can I have the required charges asap. Regard Mr Joshua Sellers
Mr Sellers I have a "personal business" already, dewd! I also have well over a million dollars in personal wealth and assets, so I don't actually need that $800K. Do we have an understanding?
Camille White
Hey, a discount!
26 October Hello If you can fellow my instructions now and send the balance of $100 today through Money Gram,To the receivers name Mike Ude,Country Benin Republic, city Cotonou. I will complete the rest balance and you will for sure receive your long awaiting fund to take good care of yourself espencial at this your old age ok. Listen to me and see what you can do now about it and all the problems you are having in receiving your fund will be over.I wait here to have the payment information for the $100 as soon as possible. Regard Mr Joshua
Mr Sellers "This your old age"? I'm 26! Camille White
30 October Hope all is well and I want to know why up till now you didn’t update me concern your fund worths of USD$800.000.00? I,m concern of your fund which i know the value and the development it will intrude into your life and your lovely ones so be fast doing things lets get to the end of this transaction at this point.Now I want to know what is real going on and I will like to hear from you as soon as you read this message no matter any circumstance. Regard Mr Joshua Sellers
Mr Sellers We got paid and everything's just perfect. Have a nice day. Camille White
19 November Good Day, How are you doing today with family? Why all these delaying again? You have to try all your possible best to send the required charges so that you can receive your fund this time without any delay. I want to assure you that you must for sure receive your FUND at this stage without fail. I advice you to try all you could, do everything you can, hustle any how to make sure that you send this last balance payment before the end of the week, so that we can win this battle while you receive your fund and pay off your Bills also to take good cares of your family and start your new investing with your USD$800.000.00. I am 100% sure about this and that is why I always encourage you so that you can receive your funds very easy and start eloping your own invests. Thank you for your understanding as I look forward to hearing from you with details I want to read from you now.
Regard Mr Joshua Sellers
This paraphrase included some special sentences (emphasis in original).
Mr Sellers How are you doing today with your poor long-suffering family? Why all these demands again? You have to try all your possible best to forget about the charges because we received our funds on time without any delay. I want to assure you that we for sure received our FUNDS on time without fail. I advice you to try all you could, do everything you can, hustle any how to make sure that you fuck off before the end of the week, so that we can enjoy the festive season while you stop demanding money, and you can get back to making life hell for your family who must be embarrassed at what a fucking idiot you are. I am 100% sure about that and that is why I always encourage you to fuck off and leave us alone so we can enjoy the good life with all our BGFFs. Thank you for your understanding as I look forward to never hearing from you again. I want you to understand that.
Camille White
Two months later...
22 January 2020 Why up till today you did not send the fee ? I,m getting tired of reminding you for your fund so if you wish to lose your fund so be it because i have done my best and you wont blame me if you lose your fund because of your carefree attitudes towards your fund at this final stage. Does it mean that you choose to loose your fund worths of USD$800.000.00 or what? Now I will be waiting to receive the fee so that your money should be transfer to you as been stipulated ok. Regards, Yours in service. Mr.Joshua David Sellers Director,Special Transfer Unit Benin Du Republic.
Mr Sellers We got paid our $1.52 million and everything's just perfect, so we don't have to send you any fee. Have a nice day.
Camille White
Now the interesting part here is that the very same Lad got back to me just today!
Watch this space.
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Post by Yastreb on Mar 21, 2021 10:12:44 GMT
11 March 2021
Hello,How are you doing today? It has been long i hear from you regarding your USD$800.000.00 which is ready to release to you once you pay the last and final obligate fees.Why up till now you didn't sent the fees and receive your pending fund worth of $800.000.00? Do you think that what you are doing is wise? Stop keeping silent over your due fund because its not wise. Reason well to receive your fund and start your new life. Regard Mr Joshua Sellers
Cammy reproves and reminds him.
Mr Sellers What is your fucking problem? I've told you so many times that we got paid our $1.52 million, in full (the AFL didn't keep half for itself either!) and no-one said anything about obligate fees. And I don't want to start a new life, the one I'm living is just perfect! Camille White
Over a week passes...
You are not serious and not ready to receive your fund,This your carefree attitude mighty lead into cancellation of your fund file and you will be at lost because your fund file will be send to federal Government as an unclaimed fund,so wake up from your sleeping and receive your fund to start your new life. Regard Mr Joshua D Sellers
Cammy replies with proper decorum (emphasis in original).
Mr Sellers You are very fucking stupid and not fit to have your job,This your mindless fucking stupidity mighty lead into you being fucking well sacked from your office and you will be fucking well fucked because your job will be given to someone who isn't a zombie, so wake up from your fucking stupidity and grow a fucking brain to start your new life as a human being. Camille White
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Post by MildredPierce on Mar 21, 2021 19:51:16 GMT
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Post by Yastreb on May 9, 2021 10:52:44 GMT
Update; this one hasn't given up... yet.
29 April
How are you doing today?? Can you indicate your interest in receiving your due fund worth of USD$800.000.00 now or do you choose to lose it because of the last and final charges that hold the release of your fund? Talk to me right let me know where i stand because the authorities are not loner happy over your long delayed and silent and it will give them no option than to mark your fund red cross and sign it as unclaimed fund and you will be at lose so wake up now before its late and i have sworn to you that this fee is last and final fees on this transaction and nothing more. I wait here to read from you now let me know your stand! Regard Mr. Joshua D Sellers
Mr Sellers What is your fucking problem? I've told you so many times that we got paid our $1.52 million, in full (the AFL didn't keep half or itself either!) and no-one said anything about last and final charges. You can't mark our money with a red cross and sign it as unclaimed fund because you don't have it. And that means there aren't any last and final fees, because we've been paid. So there! Camille White
And then, today...
9 May 2021
Hello,Confirm the receipt of this message.We are still waiting for the last and final charges and make sure you that buy iTunes card,steam wallet card or google play card of single $100 each and attach the copy while we can complete your transaction without any further delay and you will confirm your FUND worth of USD$800.000.00 without any futher delay or excuse ok.Update me asap. Regard Mr.Joshua Silas
Cammy replied with a paraphrase (bolding and italicising in original).
Mr Silas Hello, I am confirming the receipt of your fucking stupid message. You will be waiting for the so-called last and final fucking charges until the fucking end of time because I've told you so many times that we got paid our $1.52 million, in full, and if you think that I'd buy any fucking iTunes card, steam wallet card or google play card of single $100 each and attach the fucking copy while you do fuck all without any further delay you are fucking dreaming, because I've told you so many times that we got paid our $1.52 million, in full, and you will confirm what a fucking idiot you are without anyfucking doubt or argument, because I've told you so many times that we got paid our $1.52 million, in full. So fuck off and die, you stupid c_nt. Camille White
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Post by Linoline on May 9, 2021 11:08:31 GMT
Cammy can't be blamed for lack of subtlety
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