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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 14, 2021 20:47:06 GMT
I found this scam mail on a random website and decided to engage
Basically, it's a fluff promising me 2.5 million dollars via an ATM mastercard because "African image has been destroyed by the Scam/Fraudulent Government Officials" yadayadayada.
I was told to contact a "Michael" and I did(from a random email account that wasn't contacted as one of the 100 accounts meant to benefit from the generous funds).
In less than one hour, I got a reply from "Michael" and he has a Nigerian number in his signature....Interesting. Note how he is also trying to stress on the "urgency" so I do not have the chance of discovering his scam. I might call the number from a VoIP service to satisfy my curiousity.
Since Dear Rev. Michael wasn't specific enough with the full details he wanted. I sent back the BS "parcel number" he gave me, just to stress him out a 'lil bit
He is still not being specific enough, I'm also too dumb to understand him and attend to the urgent situation
I was a tad rude here. I asked him for what he wanted from me exactly
At least now, he is able to specify the exact data he needed to continue the scam
I gave him a fake number and a non-existent address. I also tried to ask for his name to maybe get a contradiction that would waste an additional two days of his time.
FYI: This is the first time I would ever bait a scammer and I particularly don't have anything exciting planned this dude. My plan is to waste his time by dragging out this conversation as much as possible.
Anyone is welcome to give me more ideas and point out any errors I may have made with the bait, publishing or general scambaiting guidelines.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 14, 2021 21:02:50 GMT
Obviously, the catch to the free $2.5 million is a ridiculously justified delivery fee.
He also sent an image of my "package", He just typed out my fake address and name on a blank DHL package. It's 50% convincing I must say.
I plan on asking him if he's a scammer by questioning some inconsistencies in our conversation. I am not educating him by the way, I just want to sow a seed of doubt and I'll eventually buy whatever BS excuse he gives me.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 14, 2021 22:32:40 GMT
From the last mail, he told me to pay the money to his presumably real account since he can't receive money under the BS michael name. I asked him a bunch of questions while still showing desperation...let's see how it goes He said the Nigerian I am paying to in Nigeria is "our cashier here in our DHL office who will go for pickup the fee" while avoiding the remaining questions. Gosh! this grammar is killing me. He is still trying to stress on the urgency. He also provides information on an account I can transfer to. I took a page out of <***> book and replied with He just sent the fake picture of the package again, I noticed the words "extremely urgent" written on it and decided to speak on that It doesn't seem like he wants to talk to me, all he wants is the money I am never going to send to him. He reminds me of the urgency again I asked him about the account number he said I could pay into He seems to have changed his mind about the account number thing here. Maybe he on to me or maybe he consulted another scammer. He definitely needs a better approach to customer service Well, I am very tired and I'll get back to him tomorrow. The urgency would have to wait.
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2021 1:09:34 GMT
You might tell him that you do not use WU or MG and will only send the fees by bank transfer. Then you can get a bank account to report and claim a in your signature line. Also, make him anxious by only replying once a day or even two days.
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Post by Birlic on Apr 15, 2021 14:06:06 GMT
- In the beginning of your "relationship" it is good to look like an innocent and naive victim. Of course, you will have a lot of questions about the transaction, but the idea is for the scammer to think that you are easy to fool and that he will receive his money. - The pace at which you respond to his messages must be "imposed" by you and you have not justify anything. All the scammers are "in a hurry" because they want the victims not to have time to find out that everything is a hoax. You must never forget that "money is in your pocket" so "you make the rules". - Otherwise, it's just your imagination and the way you make the scammer believe your story. As Admin said, it would be good to ask for 1-2-3 bank accounts... you will claim later that there are some problems with the accounts (one account at a time) and, only at the end, you agree to pay by MoneyGram (you have HotLine Moneygram, in the Phone Baiting area).
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 15, 2021 15:08:06 GMT
You might tell him that you do not use WU or MG and will only send the fees by bank transfer. Then you can get a bank account to report and claim a in your signature line. Also, make him anxious by only replying once a day or even two days. Sorry, I do not understand the second sentence about the bank account thing. You are right about the slow replies, I haven't replied him yet and he seems to be really anxious because he has sent three separate mails since yesterday. He also introduced a deadline in his last mail (which I am going to intentionally miss).
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Post by Linoline on Apr 15, 2021 20:41:27 GMT
When you are able to get bank account information from a scammer and report it, we will forward it so the authorities will deal with it. It takes scammers time to get the trust of a mule to use their account so when they lose the access to it, you make their scamming business a bit harder. Not all accounts will be shut down, but they will be investigated and banks will act when they see evidence of fraud. A mule is someone that is not the scammer himself and might not even be involved in the scam at all. Many times they are victims of romance scams, where the scammer convinces them to allow them to use their account to receive money they need for some reason. Or they are victims of job scams where victims are convinced to get paid to use their account to forward money under the pretense that it is a real job. These mules need to be treated as innocent third parties and we don't involve them in any way in our baits. If you get an African account, it's likely that the scammer himself, his boss, friend or relative owns the account. This is also worth it to report, because when there are enough reports and evidence banks have ammunition to close them. HERE you will find information on how to report bank accounts.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 16, 2021 8:57:13 GMT
Our anxious scammer resends (a slightly better composed version of) the original message, and introduces a deadline to trying to speed up the scam before I am able to discover it. I guess he'll have to learn the meaning of patience. I plan on getting a couple of bank accounts from him before sending him to the moneygram bot. I decided to further increase his anxiety by making him think he'll get his money first thing tomorrow morning (This conversation took place around 11pm). The last line is just me paraphrasing a line from one of his previous emails to mock him let him know about the urgency. Hahahaha, he sent an account. I think I'll tell him that I have sent the money. does anyone know how I can generate a fake receipt to send to the scammer before the bank "reverses the transaction". I'll report the account asap. Thanks for the info Linoline The account name is also different from his fake name and the previous moneygram name
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Post by Birlic on Apr 16, 2021 9:09:58 GMT
... does anyone know how I can generate a fake receipt to send to the scammer before the bank "reverses the transaction". You don't need any fake receipts... everyone knows that interbank transactions are done electronically, so the scammer has to check "his" account and confirm that the money got there.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 16, 2021 9:13:19 GMT
Oh, I did not know this. Thanks for the info.
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Post by Linoline on Apr 16, 2021 9:13:26 GMT
You don't need a fake receipt, your bank works only digital and the confirmation was on the screen, they are an ecological-minded bank (or something) and to save the trees they stopped giving receipts. Your bait, your bank, your rules. I only had one scammer in the last 3 years contact a bank to verify the information I gave him and that is one I put through the wringer for over a year. ETA: crosspost... What Birlic said
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Post by Yastreb on Apr 16, 2021 10:24:41 GMT
Lads can be very insistent about payment slips. There may be temper tantrums over them. Stand firm!
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 17, 2021 0:16:13 GMT
I gave our dear scammer the good news the following morning. He didn't seem to appreciate that I sent an extra 20 pounds I needed to remind him that I really wanted my package, so I scheduled this for an hour in advance YAYYY!!! our dear scammer said I was going to get my nonexistent package by tomorrow. He also wants me to send a payment slip, I'll tell him I didn't get one because my bank is cutting down on paper waste...he'll have to wait till Monday for me to go to bank and find out what went wrong. He sent another mail soon after asking me for the payment slip. He seems to be worried that he hasn't gotten any money. LOL
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Post by Birlic on Apr 17, 2021 7:32:40 GMT
- The payment has been made and the scammer must wait for the money to enter the account. Your character should treat this issue as something "already solved" and insist on the delivery details. Of course, the scammer will invent a reason why the delivery agent will not be able to reach you today. Nor tomorrow, you can do bet. - Of course, on Monday you will not be able to go to the bank... you will pretend a violent cold, which keeps you in bed. Of course the scammer will insist. On Tuesday or Wednesday, you feel better and you will go personally to the bank to check what happened. The explanation will be very simple: "The bank refused to make the transaction, the reason being related to the beneficiary's account... sorry, but I did not receive any other details." This and nothing more! You will request that the scammer send you another bank account. Wash, rinse and repeat.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 17, 2021 16:48:54 GMT
I notified our dear scammer that I have already sent the money
Of course, he doesn't believe me and demands proof
A few hours later, he sends another mail..something tells me that this scammer doesn't get the memo, MY BANK DOES NOT GIVE RECEIPTS
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Post by bobilili on Apr 17, 2021 21:21:54 GMT
Sounds like he is getting frustrated already!
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Post by Pricky on Apr 18, 2021 4:51:05 GMT
Good to see you baiting. We are all available to guide you if requested.
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Post by Birlic on Apr 18, 2021 9:22:14 GMT
... and be ready to receive your package on 17th April 2021 by 5.45 Pm. We are all curious to know if the courier with the package came to your door.
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Post by Yastreb on Apr 18, 2021 10:53:08 GMT
For an example of demanding a payment slip despite all assurances that banks didn't give them out, hearken to "Ambassador James Entwistle" in the calls from 24 June through 27 June.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 18, 2021 11:50:40 GMT
He sent this exact same mail to me twice. It's kind of sweet how much this scammer trusts me, he is also helping me complete the lie (LOL).
I'm going make him wait for a couple days before "going to the bank" to find out what went wrong. Of course, the money is going to be on "hold" and in need of supplementary verification. I will need to provide the scammers address, phone number, email and other personal data that may be of interest to me.
I might introduce a bank staff character for this one...just to waste his time before I ultimately reverse the payment.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 18, 2021 11:53:02 GMT
Sounds like he is getting frustrated already! We're just getting started . This scammer seems desperate and I have a feeling that this is going to be a very long exchange.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 18, 2021 11:56:06 GMT
Good to see you baiting. We are all available to guide you if requested. Thank you very much. I'm honestly just making this all up as I go along. Anyone is welcome to give tips and suggestion.
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 18, 2021 11:57:12 GMT
... and be ready to receive your package on 17th April 2021 by 5.45 Pm. We are all curious to know if the courier with the package came to your door. SPOILER ALERT: It didn't
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Post by Linoline on Apr 18, 2021 15:23:40 GMT
So disappointing... He deserves punishment
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 21, 2021 10:52:39 GMT
He mailed me again three days later and included a dumorage fee of 50 pounds per day to try speeding up the scam
I replied him that night telling him that the transaction has been put on hold.
Almost immediately, he replies and reitrates the demurrage fee nonsense
He sends another mail the next day. He seems to be really interested in this money
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 28, 2021 12:31:26 GMT
He sends this message yet again I replied him three days later, my plan is to introduce a conflict and complicate the situation as much as I can with every reply. I made him know that I have been working hard to get his payment to him, but there was something wrong with the account. He reassured me that the account was fine and as usual, threatened the cancellation of the package if I delayed any further. He didn't even wait for me to tell him I needed a new bank account, but he sent it anyway. How sweet ? Of course, I had to complicate the issue yet again. I told him that he would need to provide me with some documents,I acted frustrated and told him to take the fee out of the compensation He offered a solution and an alternative to how he could get his money while threatening that the package would be cancelled. He ignored everything else that I said. Reminder email saying nothing we haven't heard before Again, I complicated the issue and tried provoking a reaction by insulting him and sprinking a little death threat at the end. I also made a request for the documents required to process his payment. It is worth noting that I have already spoken to this scammer with Pricky using another character, he sounded VERY desperate.
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Post by Birlic on Apr 28, 2021 13:56:29 GMT
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Apr 29, 2021 8:16:28 GMT
It seems like this scammer doesn't want to have a pissing contest with me, all he wants is the money.
Again, I tried changing to topic by making him acknowledge the sob story I told him last week about me getting soaked in the rain.
He seems to be very focused on his payment
I tried getting him to send an unnecessary document
He really isn't having any of it. He replied me with a new deadline, urging me to make his payment
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Post by Birlic on Apr 29, 2021 9:50:02 GMT
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Post by Captain Nigeria on May 1, 2021 9:34:01 GMT
I send a mail to re-iterate how serious I am with his transaction, and tells him to expect an update by next week. This ensures that the scammer remains very aware of my character and our interaction. All he wants is his money. I reassure him that I am working hard to resolve the issue. Our corrupt cashier at the bank Birlic would contact him on Tuesday. We think our reverend would greatly appreciate the monetary benefits of being a member of the HL church.
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