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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 21, 2021 18:34:30 GMT
My response. I made it clear that, if he wants the money, the only option for him is to fill out that security form... unless he wants to wait 21 days  (six page form attached) Of course, I made sure to blame him for all the delays It's all his fault Lets see his response. He will probably complain a lot, but I think he is very desperate for the money. Hopefully he does the right thing  His reply, he is NOT at all happy. I could just blame him in return, and I really want him to fill out that form. I think if I push hard enough he will, but he is very upset about all this and I don't want him to quit. The again, in his mind, the money is very close to him. I don't know what I should really say next? Or if I just leave him until tomorrow. I decided to respond... ------------------------------------ He hasn't responded yet. Maybe he's too stressed and upset to think logically, and he's wondering what to do next. I really hope he is busy filling out that form. I think it's unlikely he gave up, he's been talking for over a month and he's very invested. Or maybe I'm wrong, only time will tell |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 22, 2021 12:33:28 GMT
I decided to send a minimal chaser He hasn't responded at all so either he is busy filling out that ridiculous form, or he he gave up.
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He finally decided to respond. Sadly, no form was filled out. I think he is absolutely fed up with me and the form. Clearly I'm getting nowhere with it, and I think it's best to move on. I will try and bring him back round
I'm still considering my reply. I'm a bit unsure of what to do next, I still think some fun is to be had with him. However, I don't want to give him any reason to drop me. Any suggestions would be welcome.
I won't be responding until tomorrow.
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Post by landofconfusion80 on Jun 22, 2021 22:02:26 GMT
Maybe tell him that you went to moneygram and explained that he was too incompetent to fill out the form and you asked them if there was something else that could be done. 1.youre in his court to get this done. 2.mild slap for not completing the form. 3. Called him an idiot just cause it's funny 4. Hits the reset button on the whole thing
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 22, 2021 22:34:01 GMT
landofconfusion80 These are good suggestions. Me and this idiot have done everything when it comes to MoneyGram. He has called the bot 17 times, and he managed to fill out just one page of the six page form (such a lazy scammer). He is really pushing me to pay the fee into the bank account, which I reported ages ago, so I might thrown him a bone and go that route. He has already been chopped by Captain Dej, maybe an opportunity to get him to fill out another form? I'll have to look in the toolbox. All that being said, I probably need to get him well back on the hook first. He seems just about ready to quit. If he does quit, I have another scammer who I've already made a new thread about. I also have another one who started a conversation with Mr Preview today, and if it progresses any further, I'll make a thread about him too
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Post by landofconfusion80 on Jun 23, 2021 1:22:07 GMT
You definitely have a full plate! He knows the cash is out there, it's just going to take driving him into the dirt if he still wants it. Maybe another form that wants him to do crayon pictures if he can't figure out the 6 page
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 23, 2021 7:09:31 GMT
He is still on the hook, he sent this He will have to wait until later for my reply... what a shame. --------------------------------- His email today LOL He is very tired of all this I think. My response, trying to move things along while also blaming him for all the delays Let's see what he has to say |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 23, 2021 13:03:23 GMT
His reply
My reply (while I think of what to do here)
His email (I didn't see this when I sent my one)
It does look like he wants me to send money to a Money Mule/ ITP. Obviously I don't want to involve them. Are there any suggestions or ways to turn this into something interesting?
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Post by ScammingTheScammers on Jun 23, 2021 14:24:35 GMT
Don't let him off with not completing the forms too lightly. If he feels he HAS to then he probably will. With all that money tied up at MoneyGram, how would you get MORE money to send? You are not made of money. Probably safer to wait for MoneyGram to refund after 21 (working) days. Never send cash in the post. Maybe you would have in the past but remember last year you sent Larissa £100 in a birthday card and the robbing postie took it. Don't get burned like that again. If the account he asked you to pay in to was reported a while ago then you can tell him there was some sort of "security flag"  Whatever that means... On the account which they said prevented any deposits. If he checks the status of the account he may find that to be true which enhances your credibility and "honesty". STS |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 23, 2021 14:58:04 GMT
^^ScammingTheScammers these are good points. I haven't responded yet at all, so I will probably say something like "my money is still with the MoneyGram, so I guess we will have to wait 21 days for us to do our business. Of course if you just filled out that form, we could get this done today. I guess your just too lazy for that. I'm not made of money so we have to get this done before we can discuss alternative methods of payment. That is it! He will complain some more, but every time I reply, I will remind him the money is right there and he can get it if he just fills out the form. After all that, we can get to the bank account business
----------------------------------- Ty ScammingTheScammers , still new to baiting really, and I've never had a scammer on the hook for this long My reply Bring on the inevitable complaints. |
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Post by ScammingTheScammers on Jun 23, 2021 17:32:05 GMT
Happy to help with ideas... And they are just ideas. There is no right or wrong here. As long as you stay safe and stick to the ethics, you are free to steer your bait wherever you want. Take suggestions, try out something of your own, set yourself a little challenge on duration or number of emails they write or... it's all up to you. One of the great things about baiting is that even if you do nothing, you are still baiting. For example if you go silent on this guy now for 2 weeks... He will spend 2 weeks chasing you. Some of my best baiting has been when on holiday and NOT actively baiting. When you return, you can then have fun getting them to apologise for all the impatient insults they threw at you while you were unavoidably in hospital, nursing your sick mother ...etc...
STS
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 23, 2021 19:03:13 GMT
Thanks anyway. He hasn't responded yet and I wont be responding until he emails first. I really hope he doesn't give up, but he knows the money is right there. Only time will tell
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Post by Linoline on Jun 24, 2021 9:20:16 GMT
From what I understood, this is not advised. By telling the scammer an account is under investigation you obstruct the investigation. So please try to avoid this. I usually tell them that there is a problem with their account and my bank told them they can't receive money. No, they didn't tell me what the problem was, because of privacy reasons, but it's your account mister scammer, so I'm surprised you don't know the details.
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 24, 2021 11:11:28 GMT
Well he still hasn’t responded, and I didn’t tell him about the account. No idea if he has just given up or if he is busy filling out the form. I haven’t emailed him but Im considering poking him just to see whats happening
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Well good news and bad news. He has responded at last, but he didn’t fill out the form. He has sent three emails within the last hour, they are all excuses really and demands for me to pay the money regardless. My response will be firm, I cant let him get away with not filling out that form. I think once he sees that Mr A cannot be pushed around so easily he will comply, Especially since there is $1000 right there
I am away from my PC so I will add to the thread later
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 24, 2021 19:17:39 GMT
Okay, let's see what the lazy idiot has to say
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Mr A was not pleased at his refusal to fill out that form, I make it very clear I won't be sending any money without a filled out form
Maybe he will come back complaining, but Mr A has already made his position clear! It's up to the scammer to do the right thing now.
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 25, 2021 6:45:19 GMT
Still refusing to get the form filled out. Mr Preview has had enough This scammer is very lazy, it's starting to frustrate ME I have decided to stop responding unless he send the filled out form. I have better things to do and this scammer is such an idiot. |
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Jun 25, 2021 6:59:32 GMT
Silence is very loud when dealing with scammers. You can ignore him for 2-4 days and act like you are no longer interested.
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 26, 2021 21:39:25 GMT
He has not sent any emails or anything. Is there a chance he gave up?
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Post by Captain Nigeria on Jun 26, 2021 21:52:25 GMT
It's the weekend, you can get back to him Monday evening and blame him for being unresponsive.
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 26, 2021 21:56:20 GMT
I could do that, but I just know he will come back without the form filled out. He will be whining and complaining. I will probably come back saying have you filled out that form yet, or similar.
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Post by ScammingTheScammers on Jun 27, 2021 7:00:03 GMT
Yeah I agree with Captain NigeriaThe perfect bait maximises his effort and minimises your effort. You don't have to stop baiting while you wait for him. There are plenty of others to get on the hook while you are waiting. Gmail labels can help a lot with keeping track of multiple baits in your inbox. STS |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 30, 2021 11:00:53 GMT
He hasnt come back yet. I have a few other scammers im dealing with right now, but none have gone on for so long -------------------------------------
The scammer has come back after I sent a chaser, and he has been emailing me non-stop since LOL This was sent yesterday His reply *he sent this email 6 times over a few hours Lets see where we can go with this |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 30, 2021 11:53:40 GMT
Now he suggests Ria money transfer, Obviously Mr A will not accept this He also sent this 30 minutes later Lets suggest something entirely different... I will wait and see what he responds with. I will not reply until later this evening (Mr Pricky's live stream is much more important than this idiot ) |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jun 30, 2021 21:53:00 GMT
Well, he never responded. Im not going to waste my time chasing this idiot. Honestly, I think over one month is not too bad for one of my first baits. I have certainly learnt a few things that I will carry over to future baits. And the  golden triple was nice too |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jul 6, 2021 11:30:36 GMT
Update! The story continues...
And it might include a certain church. I will post all in one large post later. After he suggested using RIA, Mr A instead suggested he withdraw the money from his local church (to pay the fee). He is a member, and said the church would agree if they got a share of the fund. Mr A then got the corrupt church accountant to contact the scammer, who instantly realised what was going on. He proposed a deal where the scammer could get his hands on £15.000 is he plays ball. I am at the stage where The accountant is about to hand off to the church official who deals with applications. I may need some help...
Of course, this could all go no-where at all. I have been doing this for about a few days, and he seems interested. He is somewhat lazy (he never filled out the six page form earlier).
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Post by Linoline on Jul 6, 2021 11:39:55 GMT
With the church there's a lot more money involved of course, so he might reconsider his laziness
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Post by CertainHuman on Jul 6, 2021 11:58:09 GMT
I hope so. He has provided what looks like his real name (but who can know for sure) so he is certainly interested in the money.
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Post by Linoline on Jul 6, 2021 12:41:34 GMT
I happen to know a trustworthy church secretary who will be happy to handle a thing or two if you need
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Post by CertainHuman on Jul 6, 2021 13:26:26 GMT
Linoline I think the scammer would surely appreciate it! I will post the full conversation in a bit so everyone knows what's going on
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Post by CertainHuman on Jul 6, 2021 14:17:04 GMT
Okay, so lets catch up... From now Mr A will now be called Mr PreviewMy reply to his last email a few days later. At this point I assumed he was done with Mr Preview, so this was a last ditch effort. He responded, seeming ignoring my email His reply, sounding very grumpy My reply (I thought he had quit at this point, so this was to upset him more) This got their attention! He responded only 20 minutes later and At this point, The accountant got in touch with the scammer... (I used other baits from this forum as inspiration for my emails, but I tried not to copy them directly) He responds look's like he understands now... And My reply, explaining everything His somewhat confusing reply His reply, he used the name of the bank account he provided earlier. (clearly not his name) And just 30 minutes later... This worked, and he gave me a slightly more convincing name (still probably not be his real name, but who cares really) At this point, I resent the earlier email which explains the plan. He replied with My reply, I actually didn't see his previous email and At this point, I am delaying him until I think of what to do next He has sent a few more inpatient emails, but they are boring so I won't bother posting here. This is where I am up to. Suggestions? |
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Post by CertainHuman on Jul 6, 2021 14:20:55 GMT
His latest email, just a few minutes ago...
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Whatever that means... On the account which they said prevented any deposits. If he checks the status of the account he may find that to be true which enhances your credibility and "honesty".
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